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    Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel

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      B-Vs-V
      last edited by B-Vs-V

      @VectorStyler no, we're not there yet.

      1. I define a paragraph style (e.g., title)
      2. I apply it to different paragraphs
      3. I change the font and update the style
      4. it's OK for the part of the text I've changed, but not for the others: the informations in the panel are not fully correct

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        VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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        @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

        the informations in the panel are not fully correct

        So it is basically showing incorrect attributes in the character panel.
        I will try to replicate this. Send me the file from that screenshot.

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          B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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          @VectorStyler Sorry, didn't save this one... I start to have too many test files ☺ but I guess you could reproduce this issue easily.

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            B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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            @VectorStyler It seems to me that it's still not very user-friendly and buggy.
            To improve workflow: would it be possible to apply styles with a simple (mouse/pen) click?
            Updating a style after modifying the text still doesn't work.

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              VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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              @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

              would it be possible to apply styles with a simple (mouse/pen) click?

              Yes, in the panel menu -> Listing Mode, select "Edit on Double Click". Then single click will apply.

              Updating a style after modifying the text still doesn't work.

              I tried to replicate this, but the paragraph style was updated here.
              If you can send a file for this one, it might help replicating it. Thanks!

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                B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                @VectorStyler said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

                @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

                would it be possible to apply styles with a simple (mouse/pen) click?

                Yes, in the panel menu -> Listing Mode, select "Edit on Double Click". Then single click will apply.

                That's something. I'm convinced that this option isn't very useful. I don't remember how it is in InDesign but I think that styles are applied by a simple click.

                Updating a style after modifying the text still doesn't work.

                I tried to replicate this, but the paragraph style was updated here.
                If you can send a file for this one, it might help replicating it. Thanks!

                I've recorded the issue and will sent you the mp4.

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                  VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                  @Pat Got the recording, thanks!

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                    B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                    @VectorStyler I hope this helps and that what I want to show is made clear ☺

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                      VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                      @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

                      I hope this helps and that what I want to show is made clear

                      Replicated. I found two issues:

                      • the paragraph changes after updating (should not). This can be fixed with a Control+R refresh
                      • the [+] marker on the name should go away after applying the paragraph style.

                      I will try to fix this problems for the next build.

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                        B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                        @VectorStyler Yes, that's right. Thanks ☺ I'll resume testing with the next build.

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                          B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                          @VectorStyler ...is still not working ☹ :

                          • changing the font style of a paragraph
                          • define a new paragraph style (e.g., title)
                          • the new style appears in the list
                            But:
                          • it can be applied to another paragraph without taking all the defined criteria into account
                          • it can be applied to another paragraph but reverting to the default style is not correct, as the text may retain the font size of the new style
                          • ...

                          I think it would be a good idea to test these text styles in depth. As long as it doesn't work, it will be impossible to use VS for in-depth text control in a layout.

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                            VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                            @Pat Added this to the backlog. Will try to replicate this and test it more.

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                              VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                              @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

                              I could not replicate these two, or I did not understood them:

                              it can be applied to another paragraph without taking all the defined criteria into account
                              it can be applied to another paragraph but reverting to the default style is not correct, as the text may retain the font size of the new style

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                                B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                @VectorStyler I've just tried again and had different issues. I've recorded it and I'm sending you the video.

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                                  VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                                  @Pat Got it. Thanks!

                                  This can be replicated.

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                                    B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                    @VectorStyler testing the paragraph styles: so far so good except that the chosen font is still not displayed in the character panel:

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                                    Edit: no, synchronisation is not always working as it should. Sorry, I stop testing this up to the next updates.

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                                      VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                                      @Pat There is still work to do here.

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                                        VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                                        @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

                                        synchronisation is not always working as it should

                                        Does this refer to the character panel update, or to the paragraph style creation from the "Paragraph Style" panel?

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                                          B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                          @VectorStyler Paragraphe style panel.

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                                            @Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

                                            Paragraphe style panel.

                                            I made a recording of the paragraph style syncing: https://recordit.co/0kiu9aB4s9

                                            Maybe I do something different here, attached the file also: 0_1701886168646_paragraphstyle2.vstyler

                                            In this file I have the default paragraph style and a new (not yet edited) "title1" style. In the text I changed some character and paragraph attributes, but still links to the default style at first.

                                            The syncing is done with he highlighted button (below).
                                            One problem: if the panel is set to apply the style in a single click, then syncing will not work, since by selecting the style (to sync) will apply the style, so there is nothing to sync.

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