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    Intertwine Effect: Where is it?

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      Daniel @VectorStyler
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      @VectorStyler 0_1765841952469_Intertwine Document.vstyler

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        VectorStyler @Daniel
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        @Daniel This might be solvable with some new features in the Intertwine tool.

        First I will try to fix the stroke crossing gap problem, but that cannot solve this case with multiple objects

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          Daniel @VectorStyler
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          @VectorStyler; Thank you!

          By the way, I created a pattern out of the logo. It is very Arabesque. But still, a great looking pattern. 0_1765883259365_Pentacle Pattern.jpg

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            Subpath @Daniel
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            @Daniel

            ... still a great looking pattern ...

            Indeed, gives Alhambra vibes 🙂

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              ThatMikeGuy @Daniel
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              @Daniel
              I can't find "Intertwine" anywhere. Is there a search function for menu items, tools or operations?
              Here is what I see under Styles:

              0_1766074308729_526d1602-a061-4410-a7d3-ea9ba5e27860-image.png

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                VectorStyler @ThatMikeGuy
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                @ThatMikeGuy "Intertwine" between the "Halftone" and "Drop Shadow" menus (around the middle).

                You need to select some objects to activate the menu

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                  Subpath @ThatMikeGuy
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                  @ThatMikeGuy

                  The object in your pic seems to be a single stroke ?
                  For single stroke you have to use the "Crossing Gap"
                  Shape effect, you find it under Outline shape effects

                  the interwine effect needs at least two Objects

                  the intertwine tool is here, see pic

                  0_1766082557240_intertwine.png

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                    Daniel
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                    0_1766150996522_a0801ae8-4e95-43a6-bf4f-caedafece158-image.png

                    While our developer is working the intertwine and crossing gap function, I thought through a simple but very effective solution based on @Subpath's suggestion, which might be useful to others who want create intertwine effect perfectly.

                    First, sketch out your idea:

                    0_1766151088102_5cce2a15-f9af-4e14-9411-46ba12f9a063-image.png

                    Mark out alternating sections of above and under for the knotting.

                    Then create your vector shape. 0_1766151144714_3012e868-1cbe-47cc-9a7d-c56db49a7df7-image.png

                    Then, expand the stroke:

                    0_1766151191425_ae1c4d73-5c4f-411e-9cc7-52b4aa79b3fc-image.png

                    Then apply a stroke to the expanded shape.

                    Then expand the shape again. Now you'll have two set of expanded strokes.

                    0_1766151245908_db3cba17-0635-4a13-b029-d1d9e3131ae5-image.png

                    Now, use the shape builder and cut out the under portions of the knot. You'll be left with the desired result.

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                      VectorStyler @Daniel
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                      @Daniel It turns out that some of these use cases re not suitable for intertwine, but something new.

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                        Daniel @VectorStyler
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                        @VectorStyler: Fair enough. Something like the knotting path effect in Inkscape? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zpOs-yoTw - Check this tutorial. 🙂

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                          ThatMikeGuy @Subpath
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                          @Subpath Yes. I used a single path with two stroke parameters on it. The thicker one underneath.
                          The Crossing Gap gives wierd results for this kind of thing. I'll try duplicating that path and trying Intertwine.
                          Thanks

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                            ThatMikeGuy @VectorStyler
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                            @VectorStyler Doh! I missed that. Maybe since it was grayed out. I guess since it required selection of two paths. I'll try that. Thanks.
                            How about a search function? Is there a way to search if you don't know where to find a tool or function?

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                              Boldline @Daniel
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                              @Daniel said in Intertwine Effect: Where is it?:

                              @VectorStyler: Fair enough. Something like the knotting path effect in Inkscape? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zpOs-yoTw - Check this tutorial. 🙂

                              This is actually something I need to create for an upcoming client project.

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                                Daniel @Boldline
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                                @Boldline: if you want inspiration for some very intricate knotting patterns, look up Henman Pictogram font 2.

                                0_1766167224146_f928cef6-0f8c-4082-97d2-45648f360ac4-image.png

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                                  Subpath @ThatMikeGuy
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                                  @ThatMikeGuy

                                  I just wanted to let you know that @VectorStyler is already working on the problems with the "crossing gap" shape effect.
                                  It is already mentioned in the top region of this thread.

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                                    Subpath @Daniel
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                                    @Daniel

                                    WOW !!!
                                    Thats a lot Variations.

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                                      Subpath
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                                      Some more Knots 🙂
                                      as inspiration for the intertwine feature

                                      Knotplot is a program for creating knots in celtic style and many more
                                      here the Link
                                      https://knotplot.com/

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                                        Subpath @Daniel
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                                        @Daniel

                                        Using the ShapeBuilder is also a great Idea !

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                                          Daniel @Subpath
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                                          @Subpath: Knot plot is great! Thanks for sharing. Yes, Henman is one of my favourite ornamental family. It's a family of three. Patterns, borders and individual ornaments. By a legendary Armenian designer.

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                                            Boldline @Daniel
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                                            @Daniel great thank you for the suggestion. I’ll check it out

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