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    Intertwine Effect: Where is it?

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    • DanielD Offline
      Daniel @VectorStyler
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      @VectorStyler Thank you! I used a painfully manual process. Let me try this one now.

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        Daniel
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        Oh no! It does not work on pure black?

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          Daniel @VectorStyler
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          @VectorStyler:

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          This is what I wanted to create. But this done in the old way. Manually. By setting up white cutting lines. Turning them into shapes and cutting the lines with them.

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          That took me 45 mins. 😞

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            Daniel
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            End result.

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            Is it possible to allow intertwine to work on pure blacks. Please see the knot path effect in Inkscape. That's what I am looking for. But in Inkscape, the knots don't follow the path direction, so they lead to very jagged edges. See what I mean?

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              Subpath @Daniel
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              @Daniel

              "Crossing Gap" is the right Effect for something like this
              you found it under Shape Effects it Works with a single stroke,
              btw with the new mirror feature you may able to create something
              this way a little faster

              Intertwine works differently

              0_1765827006509_crossing gap.png

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                Daniel @Subpath
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                @Subpath Let me try this and get back to you. Thank you!

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                  Daniel @Subpath
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                  @Subpath: Nope. Very similar problem. Leading to strange distortions.

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                  Even in your example, you can see what the problem is: The gap does not follow the path. 😭

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                    VectorStyler @Daniel
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                    @Daniel Send me that VS file

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                      Subpath @Daniel
                      last edited by Subpath

                      @Daniel

                      in the meantime i found a way to create (fake) gaps with the Intertwine Effect.

                      Create your Stroke, Expand that Stroke and give it a white outline
                      now you could use the the Intertwine Effect to fake gaps.

                      0_1765828764150_Intertwine-1.png

                      0_1765828771820_Intertwine-2.png

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                        Daniel @Subpath
                        last edited by Daniel

                        @Subpath: This too failed eventually. Getting the gaps to follow the direction of the path was difficult. I did however manually complete the project.

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                        It's for an AI-based security firm. The central pentagon stands for the SOC, the security operations centre. The circles on the outer perimeter represent the constant social listening of the AI engine. The interlocking lines show unending stream of data. The filled blue hexagons represent co-ordination and continuous monitoring. Sort of like a beehive. 🙂 Wanted to share because the client was chuffed and I was very excited.

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                          Daniel @VectorStyler
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                          @VectorStyler 0_1765841952469_Intertwine Document.vstyler

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                            VectorStyler @Daniel
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                            @Daniel This might be solvable with some new features in the Intertwine tool.

                            First I will try to fix the stroke crossing gap problem, but that cannot solve this case with multiple objects

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                              Daniel @VectorStyler
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                              @VectorStyler; Thank you!

                              By the way, I created a pattern out of the logo. It is very Arabesque. But still, a great looking pattern. 0_1765883259365_Pentacle Pattern.jpg

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                                Subpath @Daniel
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                                @Daniel

                                ... still a great looking pattern ...

                                Indeed, gives Alhambra vibes 🙂

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                                  ThatMikeGuy @Daniel
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                                  @Daniel
                                  I can't find "Intertwine" anywhere. Is there a search function for menu items, tools or operations?
                                  Here is what I see under Styles:

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                                    VectorStyler @ThatMikeGuy
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                                    @ThatMikeGuy "Intertwine" between the "Halftone" and "Drop Shadow" menus (around the middle).

                                    You need to select some objects to activate the menu

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                                      Subpath @ThatMikeGuy
                                      last edited by Subpath

                                      @ThatMikeGuy

                                      The object in your pic seems to be a single stroke ?
                                      For single stroke you have to use the "Crossing Gap"
                                      Shape effect, you find it under Outline shape effects

                                      the interwine effect needs at least two Objects

                                      the intertwine tool is here, see pic

                                      0_1766082557240_intertwine.png

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                                        Daniel
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                                        While our developer is working the intertwine and crossing gap function, I thought through a simple but very effective solution based on @Subpath's suggestion, which might be useful to others who want create intertwine effect perfectly.

                                        First, sketch out your idea:

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                                        Mark out alternating sections of above and under for the knotting.

                                        Then create your vector shape. 0_1766151144714_3012e868-1cbe-47cc-9a7d-c56db49a7df7-image.png

                                        Then, expand the stroke:

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                                        Then apply a stroke to the expanded shape.

                                        Then expand the shape again. Now you'll have two set of expanded strokes.

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                                        Now, use the shape builder and cut out the under portions of the knot. You'll be left with the desired result.

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                                          VectorStyler @Daniel
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                                          @Daniel It turns out that some of these use cases re not suitable for intertwine, but something new.

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                                            Daniel @VectorStyler
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                                            @VectorStyler: Fair enough. Something like the knotting path effect in Inkscape? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zpOs-yoTw - Check this tutorial. 🙂

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