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    Intertwine Effect: Where is it?

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      Subpath @Daniel
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      @Daniel

      ... still a great looking pattern ...

      Indeed, gives Alhambra vibes 🙂

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        ThatMikeGuy @Daniel
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        @Daniel
        I can't find "Intertwine" anywhere. Is there a search function for menu items, tools or operations?
        Here is what I see under Styles:

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          VectorStyler @ThatMikeGuy
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          @ThatMikeGuy "Intertwine" between the "Halftone" and "Drop Shadow" menus (around the middle).

          You need to select some objects to activate the menu

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            Subpath @ThatMikeGuy
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            @ThatMikeGuy

            The object in your pic seems to be a single stroke ?
            For single stroke you have to use the "Crossing Gap"
            Shape effect, you find it under Outline shape effects

            the interwine effect needs at least two Objects

            the intertwine tool is here, see pic

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              Daniel
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              While our developer is working the intertwine and crossing gap function, I thought through a simple but very effective solution based on @Subpath's suggestion, which might be useful to others who want create intertwine effect perfectly.

              First, sketch out your idea:

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              Mark out alternating sections of above and under for the knotting.

              Then create your vector shape. 0_1766151144714_3012e868-1cbe-47cc-9a7d-c56db49a7df7-image.png

              Then, expand the stroke:

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              Then apply a stroke to the expanded shape.

              Then expand the shape again. Now you'll have two set of expanded strokes.

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              Now, use the shape builder and cut out the under portions of the knot. You'll be left with the desired result.

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                VectorStyler @Daniel
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                @Daniel It turns out that some of these use cases re not suitable for intertwine, but something new.

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                  Daniel @VectorStyler
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                  @VectorStyler: Fair enough. Something like the knotting path effect in Inkscape? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zpOs-yoTw - Check this tutorial. 🙂

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                    ThatMikeGuy @Subpath
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                    @Subpath Yes. I used a single path with two stroke parameters on it. The thicker one underneath.
                    The Crossing Gap gives wierd results for this kind of thing. I'll try duplicating that path and trying Intertwine.
                    Thanks

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                      ThatMikeGuy @VectorStyler
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                      @VectorStyler Doh! I missed that. Maybe since it was grayed out. I guess since it required selection of two paths. I'll try that. Thanks.
                      How about a search function? Is there a way to search if you don't know where to find a tool or function?

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                        Boldline @Daniel
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                        @Daniel said in Intertwine Effect: Where is it?:

                        @VectorStyler: Fair enough. Something like the knotting path effect in Inkscape? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zpOs-yoTw - Check this tutorial. 🙂

                        This is actually something I need to create for an upcoming client project.

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                          Daniel @Boldline
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                          @Boldline: if you want inspiration for some very intricate knotting patterns, look up Henman Pictogram font 2.

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                            Subpath @ThatMikeGuy
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                            @ThatMikeGuy

                            I just wanted to let you know that @VectorStyler is already working on the problems with the "crossing gap" shape effect.
                            It is already mentioned in the top region of this thread.

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                              Subpath @Daniel
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                              @Daniel

                              WOW !!!
                              Thats a lot Variations.

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                                Subpath
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                                Some more Knots 🙂
                                as inspiration for the intertwine feature

                                Knotplot is a program for creating knots in celtic style and many more
                                here the Link
                                https://knotplot.com/

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                                  Subpath @Daniel
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                                  @Daniel

                                  Using the ShapeBuilder is also a great Idea !

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                                    Daniel @Subpath
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                                    @Subpath: Knot plot is great! Thanks for sharing. Yes, Henman is one of my favourite ornamental family. It's a family of three. Patterns, borders and individual ornaments. By a legendary Armenian designer.

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                                      Boldline @Daniel
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                                      @Daniel great thank you for the suggestion. I’ll check it out

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                                        Daniel
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                                        If anyone would like to take a stab. I am taking on a challenge to reconstruct and reverse engineer every single ornament of the three Henman family. I'll post instructions as I go along. So you can try. 🙂

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                                          Subpath @Daniel
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                                          @Daniel

                                          looks great! 👍

                                          Btw. would it be possible to create a thread about this in the tutorial section?
                                          That way it would be easier for other users to find.

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