Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel

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@VectorStyler said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

@Pat The two cases (editing and updated) are related, but I could not replicate this.

If you could send me an example file where the paragraph styles cannot be edited and updated, I will try to replicate with that.

Thanks

@VectorStyler I think I've already sent it to you. I'll check if I still have it.

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@VectorStyler I've sent you two files.
I will thoroughly test the styles again with the next build

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@VectorStyler no, the paragraph styles don't work, or at least I don't know how to use them in the same way as in a page layout program. I'm going to stop testing page layout and styles.

VectorStyler

@Pat I will reopen this issue and will try to replicate it again.
I have the files you sent me previously.

Maybe sending the settings / workspace file might also help in replicating. Thanks!

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@VectorStyler In a DP app, there's nothing more straightforward (and important) than defining paragraph styles, and if we want to make the most of VS for page layouts, it should work just the same. The settings/WSP files are new ones (I did reset VS a week or so ago).

VectorStyler

@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

In a DP app, there's nothing more straightforward (and important) than defining paragraph styles, and if we want to make the most of VS for page layouts, it should work just the same.

I agree. I will try to find the bug here and have a fix for the next build.

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@VectorStyler said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

In a DP app, there's nothing more straightforward (and important) than defining paragraph styles, and if we want to make the most of VS for page layouts, it should work just the same.

I agree. I will try to find the bug here and have a fix for the next build.

@VectorStyler for styles, the best and simplest way is to mimic exactly what is done in InDesign or Publisher (styles work well here too) in creating, applying and updating a style

VectorStyler

@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

the best and simplest way is to mimic exactly what is done in InDesign or Publisher (styles work well here too) in creating, applying and updating a style

It should be similar, unless there is some bug. I will review the whole thing before the next release.

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@VectorStyler said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

It should be similar, unless there is some bug. I will review the whole thing before the next release.

@VectorStyler thank you (no need for plenty of options (to start with))

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@VectorStyler no, we're not there yet.

I define a paragraph style (e.g., title)
I apply it to different paragraphs
I change the font and update the style
it's OK for the part of the text I've changed, but not for the others: the informations in the panel are not fully correct

VectorStyler

@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

the informations in the panel are not fully correct

So it is basically showing incorrect attributes in the character panel.
I will try to replicate this. Send me the file from that screenshot.

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@VectorStyler Sorry, didn't save this one... I start to have too many test files but I guess you could reproduce this issue easily.

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@VectorStyler It seems to me that it's still not very user-friendly and buggy.
To improve workflow: would it be possible to apply styles with a simple (mouse/pen) click?
Updating a style after modifying the text still doesn't work.

VectorStyler

@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

would it be possible to apply styles with a simple (mouse/pen) click?

Yes, in the panel menu -> Listing Mode, select "Edit on Double Click". Then single click will apply.

Updating a style after modifying the text still doesn't work.

I tried to replicate this, but the paragraph style was updated here.
If you can send a file for this one, it might help replicating it. Thanks!

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@VectorStyler said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

would it be possible to apply styles with a simple (mouse/pen) click?

Yes, in the panel menu -> Listing Mode, select "Edit on Double Click". Then single click will apply.

That's something. I'm convinced that this option isn't very useful. I don't remember how it is in InDesign but I think that styles are applied by a simple click.

Updating a style after modifying the text still doesn't work.

I tried to replicate this, but the paragraph style was updated here.
If you can send a file for this one, it might help replicating it. Thanks!

I've recorded the issue and will sent you the mp4.

VectorStyler

@Pat Got the recording, thanks!

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@VectorStyler I hope this helps and that what I want to show is made clear

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@Pat said in Paragraph style - can't be changed through the panel:

I hope this helps and that what I want to show is made clear

Replicated. I found two issues:

the paragraph changes after updating (should not). This can be fixed with a Control+R refresh
the [+] marker on the name should go away after applying the paragraph style.

I will try to fix this problems for the next build.

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@VectorStyler Yes, that's right. Thanks I'll resume testing with the next build.

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@VectorStyler ...is still not working :

changing the font style of a paragraph
define a new paragraph style (e.g., title)
the new style appears in the list
But:
it can be applied to another paragraph without taking all the defined criteria into account
it can be applied to another paragraph but reverting to the default style is not correct, as the text may retain the font size of the new style
...

I think it would be a good idea to test these text styles in depth. As long as it doesn't work, it will be impossible to use VS for in-depth text control in a layout.