Problems around the corner



  • @Igull

    it depends on the State of the Corner nodes

    if all Nodes are in blue, changing a value work for all Nodes
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    if one or more Nodes (you could select it with Shift key)
    in orange then changing the Value work only for this Nodes
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    this work in Shape Panel and in Contex Toolbar
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  • @Igull said in Problems around the corner:

    I just know the answer is out there

    yes, by swarm intelligence 🙂





  • @Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

    if one or more Nodes (you could select it with Shift key)
    in orange then changing the Value work only for this Nodes

    Not here they don't 🙂

    Normally I would use the shape editor to select the specific node, but it seems you have to use the transform tool - that selects the whole object, then you can select the specific corner (in orange like yours) and apply a value, but it still applies that to all the corners 😞

    Ahhhhhhh, I just noticed something, you are using the shape panel and NOT the corner panel !!! Why would you use the shape panel instead of the corner panel ????
    It works with the shape panel as long as you use the transform tool, but NOT with the corner panel ! And you have to use the transform tool and NOT the shape editor tool - and you're using the shape panel !!!

    LOL, this just seems like an overly confusing mess - and makes no sense - or is it me 🙂 That is until you look at the corner panel and find out that it isn't the corner value you are adjusting, but a start value (or an end value) - now this is even MORE confusing 🙂

    I would suggest that simply using the shape editor tool and clicking a node and giving it a corner value in the corner panel (and context area) should do just that - and only to the selected node(s) !

    Neil



  • @Igull
    @VectorStyler

    i notice the Corner Panel once but then i have forget it 🙂

    in my tries i was using the Corner Tool

    it seems that the corner panel has a bug ?
    As long as you have not moved a corner node
    all not moved nodes are changed when you enter a value in the corner panel

    the Shape Panel and the Context Toolbar Field on the other hand work as expected

    Here a Video



  • Just for the fun of it, a bit of comparison with Affinity:

    Designer

    First half: editing shape
    Second half: converted to curves

    Also not best practice, but the clean interface makes it okay easy to deal with.


  • administrators

    @Igull An additional click on the corner knob should give an orange outline.
    Then the corner is selected and the amount can be changed.
    This is how it works here: https://recordit.co/KHETH1EA1K

    Was there any customization of the modifier keys?



  • @Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

    @Igull said in Problems around the corner:

    I just know the answer is out there

    yes, by swarm intelligence 🙂

    Ha ha 🙂

    You're suggesting that we have the intellect of a bee then - probably correct in my case 🙂



  • @Ingolf said in Problems around the corner:

    Am I right?

    Yes, ok on the context bar input field, that's what I use generally, but was attempting to investigate more when the corner panel and shape panel started to cause me issues 🙂



  • @Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

    it seems that the corner panel has a bug ?

    Yes, that was one of the issues I noticed.



  • @VectorStyler said in Problems around the corner:

    @Igull An additional click on the corner knob should give an orange outline.
    Then the corner is selected and the amount can be changed.
    This is how it works here: https://recordit.co/KHETH1EA1K

    OK, got that, but you are using a specific corner tool to simply set a corner value. I feel that this is a bit of an overkill and TBH, unnecessary. You commonly have either the transform tool or the shape editor tool in use and having to then go to yet another tool seems pointless.
    If using the transform tool, you have to initially select the object, then select a corner point that you wish to change - that's two operations when it only needs to be one. I feel the transform tool should be for the complete object and not a single node.
    If using the shape editor tool (the correct tool IMHO), you would simply select a node and apply a value (or a selection of nodes). Currently, if using the shape editor tool, it transforms all nodes to corners.

    /rant 🙂

    Was there any customization of the modifier keys?

    Not to my knowledge. TBH, you really don't need a modifier (unless for removing an applied corner of course - but then you can simply set the corner value to zero ?).

    I fully realise that VS is different (and better really 🙂 in many respects to some of the other apps, but occasionally goes over the top on a feature that really isn't required (for my selfish purposes at least LOL 🙂 )

    Neil


  • administrators

    @Igull said in Problems around the corner:

    but you are using a specific corner tool to simply set a corner value. I feel that this is a bit of an overkill and TBH, unnecessary.

    I will make it work with the Node selection also.



  • Hi all

    I have made two requests this week that @VectorStyler put in the backlog

    • single (selected) corner values should be adjusted when selected with the shape editor (here)
    • corner editor tool should be invoked correctly and directly when a node is selected and the corner tool is activated via a keyboard shortcut (here)

    Selecting one or more nodes now and activating the corner editor with mouse works as expected.

    So, I expect that eventually this will work for me on an object (that is not a built in shape):

    • I activate the node editor with A
    • I select one or more nodes
    • I enter a value in an input field and only selected corners are adjusted
      OR
      I press C (my personal keyboard shortcut for the corner editor) and only the selected corners are adjusted (with the mouse) and I then press A to return to the shape editor

    🙂



  • @Igull said in Problems around the corner:

    @Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

    @Igull said in Problems around the corner:

    I just know the answer is out there

    yes, by swarm intelligence 🙂

    Ha ha 🙂

    You're suggesting that we have the intellect of a bee then - probably correct in my case 🙂

    😂

    Well, there are many other species that
    live in large groups (swarms), even humans.
    So it is your choice 🙂



  • @Ingolf

    Yes, I'd go along with all of that - not sure how I missed your original post, sorry.

    Neil



  • @VectorStyler said in Problems around the corner:

    I will make it work with the Node selection also.

    As they say in the movies, 'make it so' 🙂

    Excellent, thanks for that!

    Neil