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      Subpath @VectorStyler
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      @vectoradmin

      I looked at under Object > Object Role and found only "Shape"
      as a Role, did you mean this ?

      And where will this be different instead of using symbols or clones
      (i know the different between Symbols and Clones)

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        VectorStyler @Subpath
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        @Subpath Yes that is the "Shape" role. It can also be set in the Object Options view with the Role button.

        The difference:
        When using the Shape role a "virtual" shape style is created (think of a shape style as a fill or stroke style, but for shapes).
        This shape style can then be selected on any object to be the shape of the object. These objects will not be symbol instances, and they may have any other local attributes, but their shape is linked as a style to the shape style.

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          Subpath @VectorStyler
          last edited by Subpath

          @vectoradmin

          thank you for the explanation.
          Could you briefly explain how I then pass this "style" to other objects ?
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          I think I figured out how to do this.
          Select Panels > Styles > Styles (alt+v).

          Open Shape in the panel and here is your previously
          created Shape role

          Select the object(s) you want to apply it to and press the icon in the bottom
          left corner. To test it, just scale your original object

          Did some tests:
          Node editing is possible
          Group shapes after you applied the style too
          Even composite objects work (not possible with clone)
          but give me a fixable strange position for an object inside the composite object
          .
          will explore this further

          0_1651916012455_Style apply-2.png
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          Video: here my results

          Win 11
          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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            VectorStyler @Subpath
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            @Subpath When an object is selected, the Shape panel (and the Context panel) will contain a "Shape" drop down, that lists all the Shape styles and presets.
            Select the shape from there. The shape is listed with the name that was assigned to the object with the Shape role.

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              VectorStyler @Subpath
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              @Subpath Yes, the Styles panel also works for this.

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                Victor Vector @Subpath
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                @Subpath said in Extend Square Star by one Point:

                shapes without scaling point
                0_1651906052930_without scaling point.png

                shapes with a scaling point
                0_1651906081400_with scaling point.png

                For consistency, and to clean up the Shape Tool "blue point" interface, it wouldn't bother me if there were no scaling points, but scaling was achieved via the Transform Tool, or the Shape Panel.

                But I do like the "one point" scaler idea too!

                @b77 said in Extend Square Star by one Point:

                And… it all looks a bit busy. Maybe use just one knob for scaling?

                0_1651881591885_sst cl.png

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                  Subpath @Victor Vector
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                  @Victor-Vector

                  As from my point of view, i dont know the cause that Point for scaling by now.

                  It doesnt matter that much to me if there is one or non.
                  So i have nothing against your Idea, if you like one.

                  The Post of mine where you reply to is just an observation i made.

                  Win 11
                  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    b77 @Subpath
                    last edited by b77

                    Having a knob or knobs for scaling the shape when in Shape Editing mode (shortcut: A) means you don't have to switch to the Move/Transform tool (V) for scaling.
                    So I'm not suggesting it should go away.

                    MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                      Subpath @b77
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                      @b77

                      A knob for scaling can stay. I have nothing against it.
                      But it is surprising why some Shapes have one and others do not.

                      Win 11
                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                        Victor Vector @Subpath
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                        @Subpath, I hear what you are saying. I advocate for the consistency as well.
                        @b77, I really like the single scaling knob idea as it creates less confusion in the interface.
                        Thank you for sharing those ideas.

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                          b77 @Subpath
                          last edited by b77

                          @Subpath said in Extend Square Star by one Point:

                          But it is surprising why some Shapes have one and others do not.

                          You mean the rectangle and the ellipse? These are not usually supposed to be scaled symmetrically from the center like the polygon/star based shapes.

                          MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                            Subpath @b77
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                            @b77

                            understand your point about the rectangle and the ellipse.

                            i mentioned the shapes above in my post
                            here again the picture with all shapes without a scaling knob
                            0_1651944018173_without-scaling.png

                            Win 11
                            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                              b77 @Subpath
                              last edited by b77

                              @Subpath Sorry, I didn't see that image. Yes, the Super Ellipse and Super Shape could have a scaling knob, I agree. πŸ‘

                              MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                                Subpath @b77
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                                @b77

                                no problem πŸ™‚

                                Win 11
                                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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