Support a Blob type of vector brush
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@Devil-Dinosaur Ok nice yeah I found the brush tool now and it does seem to work a lot like the other tools mentioned which is great. One big issue with it right now though as I think Subpath also calls out is that the pressure changes you make don't adjust the size of the "preview / cursor" until you release.
What this results in is a situation where it's difficult to know if you have actually painted in a filled area on your canvas till you release the pen from screen, often showing that actually there are little gaps because pressure wasn't hard enough, This also makes it hard to do fine pen work because the preview is max brush size not the actual brush size with pressure factored in.
So I think in summary Yes there's a brush tool that can let you draw as shapes, and an eraser to go with it but both tools seem geared for use with a mouse not pressure pen as the brush size indicator does not adjust to match actual brush size when laying down new pressure based strokes
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Yes, I know that and I have already mentioned it,
but I find this behavior a bit curious -
@Subpath thanks for the tip about shape nib.
I had tried earlier to change the shape on the toolbar when the path brush tool was active, but all it did was to replace the selected object by the shape, not change the brush nib.
Watching your video, I now understand that the shape must be selected with no canvas object selected so it can change the nib shape. Thanks
But using the feature, it doesn't apply the shape when dragging the path brush. It only seems to apply it when clicking on the border of an object, it then modifies the object shape with the selected tool shape.
Not very intuitive but still useful
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You're welcome.
I also find it strange that you can't paint with the path brush tool
using the selected shape tip.Btw. this option to select a shape that have previously been
assigned the shape role is available for many tools in VectorStyler,
you can always check to see if a shape selection is offered in the
setting of a tool.You can also use this to create shape presets, for example. You
can also do this with the parametric shapes in VS, which remain
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@Subpath thanks for these tips.
Yes, I've tried to change the shape of some tools like the "Shaped Bump Tool" but did not find it to work as expected. Maybe I missed how to use it properly.
Coming back to the Path Brush tool, I really like what can be obtained with it, to imprint some patterns on the surface of shapes.
I experimented a bit and tried some modifier keys with it. I was hoping Alt would turn it into a Path Eraser but it doesn't.
However, a cool modifier is Shift, where if you shift-click with Path brush tool on a shape (doesn't have to have a shape role), the nib takes that shape. You can repeat over and over and get some kind of fractal construction where the path embeds smaller versions of itself.
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@VectorStyler said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:
@Subpath said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:
When painting with the brush (not clicking) the top is always rounded.
Only when clicking you can use the selected shapeIs there a reason you don’t want to have it operate in that manner? From my perspective, I would find that option very useful. A lot of interesting things could be done if the painting aspect used the shape and was not just the default rounded.
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@Boldline said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:
Is there a reason you don’t want to have it operate in that manner?
When paining with the path brush, an expanded outline shape is created (calligraphy and variable width included).
But there is no method to using an arbitrary shape in this process. It is just no way to "define" it, unless I do some hacking. -
@VectorStyler It's not the way it's working today but I agree with @Boldline it would be great to be able to "paint" with a shape
The way I imagine it is you drag the mouse and VS inserts+merges shapes continuously (at intervals), like if you were clicking after each small position offset
like this : https://somup.com/cTQF2FP1a9
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I don't think any user here would want to pressure you into any kind
of hacking. Is just we don't know in full the mechanism behind.As for me, I can live with the current situation. Once I know how
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... However, a cool modifier is Shift, where if you shift-click with Path brush tool on a shape (doesn't have to have a shape role), the nib takes that shape. You can repeat over and over and get some kind of fractal construction where the path embeds smaller versions of itself ....
Interesting, did not know that.
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Put a video together to better show the 3 main problems with this software still
https://youtu.be/Pb7otS5bovUIt's definitely close but right now not quite where it needs to be.
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@Bitten What kind of tablet is used there?
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@VectorStyler Wacom Movink 13
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@Bitten said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:
@VectorStyler Wacom Movink 13
I will try to fix these issues as soon as possible.
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@VectorStyler Legendary! If you can get these issues fixed I can finally after 10 years of waiting graduate to a modern graphics software.
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@Bitten The tablet support on Windows has been somewhat difficult.
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@VectorStyler I found the tablet support working quite well on MacOS. The pen "nib" blue overlay stays at contant size, but the drawing follows pressure quite accurately and in real time, which is very usable.
Here with an ipad and Apple pencil used in sidecar mode : https://somup.com/cTQqlTPjuN
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@VectorStyler Understood, if there's anything you need me to help with re: testing potential fixes etc. just let me know
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@Bitten said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:
I'm trying to replicate these issues with a Wacom Intuos tablet.
I have problems with replicating the pinch zoom issue.Is the "Use Windows Ink" enabled for you?
Also: did you enable (or disable) the "Use Tablet Driver" in VectorStyler Settings -> Application section? -
@Bitten I added some fixes to the tablet handling:
- brush should preview width by default
- clicking on tools should work with the tablet
But I could not replicate the multitouch pinch issue
