Support a Blob type of vector brush

Boldline

@VectorStyler said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

@Subpath said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

When painting with the brush (not clicking) the top is always rounded.
Only when clicking you can use the selected shape

Is there a reason you don’t want to have it operate in that manner? From my perspective, I would find that option very useful. A lot of interesting things could be done if the painting aspect used the shape and was not just the default rounded.

VectorStyler

@Boldline said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

Is there a reason you don’t want to have it operate in that manner?

When paining with the path brush, an expanded outline shape is created (calligraphy and variable width included).
But there is no method to using an arbitrary shape in this process. It is just no way to "define" it, unless I do some hacking.

EricP

@VectorStyler It's not the way it's working today but I agree with @Boldline it would be great to be able to "paint" with a shape

The way I imagine it is you drag the mouse and VS inserts+merges shapes continuously (at intervals), like if you were clicking after each small position offset

like this : https://somup.com/cTQF2FP1a9

Subpath

@VectorStyler

I don't think any user here would want to pressure you into any kind
of hacking. Is just we don't know in full the mechanism behind.

As for me, I can live with the current situation. Once I know how
something works, i have no problem to act accordingly.

Subpath

@EricP

... However, a cool modifier is Shift, where if you shift-click with Path brush tool on a shape (doesn't have to have a shape role), the nib takes that shape. You can repeat over and over and get some kind of fractal construction where the path embeds smaller versions of itself ....

Interesting, did not know that.

Bitten

Put a video together to better show the 3 main problems with this software still
https://youtu.be/Pb7otS5bovU

It's definitely close but right now not quite where it needs to be.

VectorStyler

@Bitten What kind of tablet is used there?

Bitten

@VectorStyler Wacom Movink 13

VectorStyler

@Bitten said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

@VectorStyler Wacom Movink 13

I will try to fix these issues as soon as possible.

Bitten

@VectorStyler Legendary! If you can get these issues fixed I can finally after 10 years of waiting graduate to a modern graphics software.

VectorStyler

@Bitten The tablet support on Windows has been somewhat difficult.

EricP

@VectorStyler I found the tablet support working quite well on MacOS. The pen "nib" blue overlay stays at contant size, but the drawing follows pressure quite accurately and in real time, which is very usable.

Here with an ipad and Apple pencil used in sidecar mode : https://somup.com/cTQqlTPjuN

Bitten

@VectorStyler Understood, if there's anything you need me to help with re: testing potential fixes etc. just let me know

VectorStyler

@Bitten said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

I'm trying to replicate these issues with a Wacom Intuos tablet.
I have problems with replicating the pinch zoom issue.

Is the "Use Windows Ink" enabled for you?
Also: did you enable (or disable) the "Use Tablet Driver" in VectorStyler Settings -> Application section?

VectorStyler

@Bitten I added some fixes to the tablet handling:

brush should preview width by default
clicking on tools should work with the tablet

But I could not replicate the multitouch pinch issue

Bitten

@VectorStyler Hey sorry for some reason notifications stopped coming through to me on this thread so I missed your messages.

Use Tablet Drive is enabled
Windows Ink is enabled

Thanks for resolving those issues.

I still can't seem to get pinch / zoom working, are there any tests I can do to help diagnose the cause of this for the Wacom Movink? I have tried both enabled and disabled for use tablet driver with no observable difference to pinch zoom.

VectorStyler

@Bitten said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

I still can't seem to get pinch / zoom working, are there any tests I can do to help diagnose the cause of this for the Wacom Movink?

If the pinch zoom is working in other apps, then it should be a VectorStyler issues, and I try to fix that.

What is the Windows version you are using?

Bitten

@VectorStyler I'm on Windows 11 Pro - v 10.0.26200

I've tested the pinch zooming feature on other applications i.e. even the Snip tool and it works fine there

VectorStyler

@Bitten said in Support a Blob type of vector brush:

I'm on Windows 11 Pro - v 10.0.26200

I will try to replicate this this

Bitten

@VectorStyler I've just uploaded a new video that includes tablet diagnostic information and shows 3 key issues still happening in latest version at time of posting:
https://youtu.be/b_YlUEVaZos

Issue 1: Path Brush Tool starts to lag and becomes unusable for filling in shapes

Issue 2: Pinch Zoom still not working

Issue 3: Going from Path Brush Tool over to pinch zoom, by disengaging the pen whilst keeping touch contact with the display will delete the established pen drawn path and replace it with whatever touch path you now introduce

Issue 2 is known but has been hard to replicate, Issue 1 may have been introduced more recently .. or perhaps has always been there and just not encountered till now for some reason. Issue 3 I had no idea was a thing till now