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    • BoldlineB Online
      Boldline
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      @b77 even if he didn’t need the blender information I appreciate that you posted that because it shows me what can be done

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        Subpath
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        @Igull

        Another strange Solution 🙂

        You might look around to see if you can buy an older inexpensive
        version of Coreldraw for the Mac.

        Coreldraw had even in the older versions an Extrusion Tool.

        Here is a video from my 2020 version
        not much has changed since.

        0_1685916764124_Extrusion.png

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        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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          Boldline @Subpath
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          @Subpath said in 3D Help:

          Coreldraw had even in the older versions an Extrusion Tool.

          I don't know when it fits on the VS roadmap plans, but an extrusion tool has been requested

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            fde101 Global Moderator
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            If you really want an alternative you could try something like Cheetah3D ($99), but while it is a simpler package than Blender I personally find it a bit more complicated to use, at least for this particular use case.

            There are other choices but you will pay far more for them than you could possibly hope to gain in any kind of time savings.

            It is fairly simple to do what you are asking to do in Blender, and worth taking the time to learn the basics of that very powerful tool, so I would also push you in that direction.

            A tutorial that may be helpful: https://devforum.roblox.com/t/converting-svgs-to-meshes/884514

            Note that only the first four steps in that tutorial are relevant to what you are asking to do.

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              Subpath
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              @Igull

              I made a test with .SVG files, to create a single Shape SVG
              from an SVG with grouped shapes.
              By manually copying Text from the xml contend between them.
              (which could be also done by a script)
              .
              .
              For this I created one Shape in VS and exported it
              as .SVG to get a file with only one object.

              I manually then replaced the <path ..... id=""/> Part
              ( which holds the Information for the Shape)
              with a Shape Part from a .SVG with grouped Shapes.

              Worked so far except for the fact that the Shape
              is placed next to the artboard.

              SVG contend with grouped shapes
              0_1685957483551_grouped shapes.png
              .
              .
              The SVG File with only one shape
              0_1685957524652_orginal SVG with one Shape.png
              .
              .
              The Shape above replaced with this Circle Shape from the grouped SVG File
              (only using copy and paste parts from the SVG (xml Text))
              its placed beside the Artboard, but it works
              0_1685957644841_new SVG with replaced Shape.png

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                fde101 Global Moderator
                last edited by fde101

                Actually, if you save it as a PDF instead of an SVG you can do this sort of thing in Art Text (https://text.design/art-text/).

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                  Igull @Subpath
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                  @Subpath said in 3D Help:

                  Have you ever thought about a script that parses your SVG file and then creates individual
                  object SVG files from them?

                  I hadn't, but that could certainly be an option to at least produce individual part files. It would be a lot simpler if something like Tinkercad would just import the SVG and be able to manipulate the parts individually 🙂

                  Thanks

                  Neil

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                    Igull @Subpath
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                    @Subpath said in 3D Help:

                    Another strange Solution

                    Yes, I suppose I could do that too, but I have a Fusion 360 and an Onshape licence which can do pretty much anything in 3D - I was just looking for an easy way out with a 'one trick pony':-)

                    Neil

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                      Igull @fde101
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                      @fde101 said in 3D Help:

                      Actually, if you save it as a PDF instead of an SVG you can do this sort of thing in Art Text (https://text.design/art-text/).

                      Mmmm, I bought Amadine from BeLight before I found VS - and really quite liked it - albeit a bit lightweight in the features department. I've just downloaded the trial version of their Art Text (supposedly full-featured), but I don't see any way to import a PDF - or anything else for that matter ?? You can certainly create 3D text extrusions and can do some rough vector drawing within, but importing or opening other file formats seems to be missing ??

                      Thanks

                      Neil

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                        Subpath @fde101
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                        @fde101 said in 3D Help:

                        Actually, if you save it as a PDF instead of an SVG you can do this sort of thing in Art Text (https://text.design/art-text/).

                        could you then extrude shapes from that PDF
                        in Art Text ?

                        I also thought about "Art Text 4" but I thought it could
                        only extrude Shapes and Letters from a .TTF font file.

                        But there are online converters that can convert a
                        .SVG to a .TTF file

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                          Subpath @Igull
                          last edited by Subpath

                          @Igull said in 3D Help:

                          've just downloaded the trial version of their Art Text (supposedly full-featured), but I don't see any way to import a PDF - or anything else for that matter

                          @Igull

                          I think the way to go with "Art Text" is to convert your .SVG File
                          first to a .TTF File via an free Online Converter

                          I have Amadine on my iPad, love it 🙂

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                            Subpath @Igull
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                            @Igull said in 3D Help:

                            @Subpath said in 3D Help:

                            Another strange Solution

                            Yes, I suppose I could do that too, but I have a Fusion 360 and an Onshape licence which can do pretty much anything in 3D - I was just looking for an easy way out with a 'one trick pony':-)

                            Neil

                            Understandable 🙂
                            But its a bit harder for Mac User.
                            On PC there are a few more Options

                            Here a Extrusion from Magix Graphics Designer
                            which also has such a Tool build in (PC only)

                            0_1685974495077_Magix-Extrusion.png

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                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                              Igull @Subpath
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                              @Subpath said in 3D Help:

                              On PC there are a few more Options

                              You're rubbing my nose in it 🙂 🙂 🙂

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                                Boldline
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                                This is not directly related, but I've been giving thought over time to how to best create the 3D wrap around look with a vector path. I was thinking of it in terms of a dedicated shape like the existing oval and rectangle shapes, but now I'm thinking the best way to create those will be when basic 3D extrude is (hopefully) added to VS

                                0_1685975559387_5932f189-cd44-4ee0-8eac-3fb7d41d5356-BLD 2023-06-05 at 10.24.01@2x.png

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                                  Subpath @Igull
                                  last edited by

                                  @Igull said in 3D Help:

                                  @Subpath said in 3D Help:

                                  On PC there are a few more Options

                                  You're rubbing my nose in it 🙂 🙂 🙂

                                  I probably should not have done that 🙂

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                                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                    Subpath @Boldline
                                    last edited by Subpath

                                    @Boldline

                                    In Corel you could take any Form/ Shape
                                    (even grouped) and extrude it
                                    in Magix Graphics Designer too

                                    The result in Magix is only a Bitmap
                                    but it has more lightning, beveling options

                                    In Corel it stay as a Vector Object where you could
                                    break apart the parts and reuse them as vector objects

                                    0_1685977652751_Corel Extrude.png

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                                      fde101 Global Moderator @Igull
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                                      @Igull not sure about the demo version, but I have a paid license of Art Text 4, and I can just drag a PDF exported from VS into the Art Text window and it loads it as a 2D shape.

                                      I can then right-click and convert to 3D after which an option to set the extrusion depth becomes available in the properties area on the right.

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                                        Igull @fde101
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                                        @fde101 said in 3D Help:

                                        @Igull not sure about the demo version, but I have a paid license of Art Text 4, and I can just drag a PDF exported from VS into the Art Text window and it loads it as a 2D shape.

                                        I can then right-click and convert to 3D after which an option to set the extrusion depth becomes available in the properties area on the right.

                                        Mmm, tried a number of PDFs all of which dragged across, but didn't show on the artboard (or only showed the bounding box - and you couldn't right click to create 3d)- seems extremely slow and very unstable (tried it on an M2 this afternoon - a bit faster, but same results) - may be something to do with the demo version. But all it has is a TRIAL watermark, everything else is supposed to work according to the info. It's probably fine for doing text and minimal 3D objects I think - might be too much heavy lifting to move all my bits around.

                                        Thanks for the info, I'll keep the trial, might find other uses for it !

                                        Neil

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