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      Subpath
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      Adobe has something new related to 3D-Illustration
      where the 3D Result could be exported as .SVG

      The whole App will be online, looks to me SDF-based.
      (Signed distance field) a new 3D Modelling approach.

      Apps like MagicaCSG (i own a copy), Clavicula SDF 3D (free)
      Womp 3D (online App) works this way

      Here the Link to the Adobes Video Demonstration
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NuEFvyDUJg

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        Subpath
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        adobe did not reinvent the wheel

        Ephtracy the creatore of Magica Voxel work
        quit a while on a the little App MagicaCSG (PC only)
        you need to be a Patreon to get a copy

        but this is the first time that i see a .SVG export
        for the 3D Result

        Win 11
        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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          Ayo @Subpath
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          @Subpath Thanks Impressive show!
          Will follow it but stick with Moi3D for now

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            Subpath @Ayo
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            @Ayo said in Adobe has something new related to 3D-Illustration ...:

            @Subpath Thanks Impressive show!
            Will follow it but stick with Moi3D for now

            Well, then hello to you
            I own a copy of Moi 3D too for quit a while
            start with MOi 3D 1, i guess. Is one of my favorite 3D
            apps because of Nurbs modeling.

            But Moi's vector graphics capabilities
            are pretty impressed too

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            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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              @Subpath I wonder what VS's potential will be for creating 3D objects - I seem to have read that even Illustrator has the ability to use artificial intelligence to create (3D ?) vector objects...

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                Subpath @B-Vs-V
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                @Pat

                just for your info, will answer but it will
                take yet some time, see you later

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                  Subpath @B-Vs-V
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                  @Pat said in Adobe has something new related to 3D-Illustration ...:

                  @Subpath I wonder what VS's potential will be for creating 3D objects - I seem to have read that even Illustrator has the ability to use artificial intelligence to create (3D ?) vector objects...

                  ai for vector objects is already possible
                  but not for 3D, dont know if this will ever be possible for 3D
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                  ... I wonder what VS's potential will be for creating 3D objects ...

                  This Topic came up already a few times. Would say that this would
                  nice to have. CorelDraw has such a 3D part and Magix graphics designer
                  also, i own a copy of both.

                  In CorelDraw the Results stay as Vector Objects. Where in Magix Graphics Designer
                  the Result could only convert in a Bitmap. I prefer Results as Vector graphics.
                  Both are useful for simple Extrusion, rotating and moving objects in 3D Space.

                  3D Feature wise, most users would be happy with just some 3D-Extrusion for
                  Text and vector shapes, i think. And adding some Beveling options would also
                  be welcome. I think all of this could be doable in Vectorstyler too.

                  For more complex stuff e.g. the use of booleans, different material
                  rendering ect a 3D Program would be a better option.
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                  As much as i dont like Adobe, i find the adobe solution shown in the Video
                  a clever step. While SDF based modeling is nothing new, there are a few
                  3D Programs out there and even Blender made experiments with SDF base
                  modeling in geometry Nodes.

                  Adobe offers to export the result as .SVG and it looks really seemless.
                  And the use SDF 3D Modeling allows beginners and unexperient users
                  a easy way in 3D modeling.
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                  SDF 3D Modelling plus and minus:

                  Plus:
                  Very easy to modelling 3D Objects for beginners or unexperient users

                  Everthing stay editable all the time

                  Live booleans, which stays also editable of course

                  a mathematical approach, as far as i know
                  so no 3D Meshes, you could create big scenerys
                  without a memory overload

                  Minus
                  No Text editing yet

                  Bending of 3D-Objects also not yet
                  .
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                  Here a few Links from Womp 3D youtube channel
                  other SDF Programs works similar.

                  some typography fun with womp 3D
                  editing text is not possible but you could modeling it

                  Create a 3D Hoodie kid in Womp

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                  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    Subpath
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                    Here is another SDF 3D modeling program
                    is called “Clavicula” and offers a few more features
                    than other SDF modelers. But it's a little harder to grasp.

                    It's free (PC, Mac, Linux)
                    For everyone who is interested.

                    Here is a link to their YouTube channel

                    As you can see in the video, everything remains editable
                    that make modeling fun

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                    GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                      B-Vs-V @Subpath
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                      @Subpath thank you for this information and this link 👍 ☺ it can be inspiring for the development of VS ☺

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                        @Pat said in Adobe has something new related to 3D-Illustration ...:

                        @Subpath thank you for this information and this link 👍 ☺ it can be inspiring for the development of VS ☺

                        everbody is welcome 🙂

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                          Subpath
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                          Here a Blender version of SDF modeling
                          still in development, the first alpha is expected in 2024
                          looks promising so far, i think.

                          Blender version SDF modeling video 1

                          Blender version SDF modeling video 2

                          again, you could see how easy it is to 3D modeling this way

                          0_1698742779944_Blender ConjureSDF demo.png

                          0_1698743475598_Blender ConjureSDF.png

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                            @Subpath I had to look up what SDF means in the 3D world ☺
                            I've already tried to use Blender for my courses, but I closed the software almost immediately after opening it. I didn't know how to get started. At the time, I felt more comfortable with Cinema 4D. The only simple and useful "3D-type" stuff I ever did was with AIllustrator... sure, it wasn't really sophisticated 3D, but it was already very good and it allowed me to have illustrations that corresponded to what I wanted to obtain as graphics (with extrusion, bevel,etc.).

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                              @Subpath said in Adobe has something new related to 3D-Illustration ...:

                              again, you could see how easy it is to 3D modelling this way

                              Looks easy and watching video is easy but mastering Blender is no easy job!

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                                @Pat

                                i got still a copy of Cinema 4D 11.5
                                but i am out of buying newer Version since
                                they switch to subscription

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                                  Subpath
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                                  @Ayo, @Pat

                                  3D modeling is not an easy task per se. I know that many
                                  are afraid of the challenge, Using Blender for 3D modeling.
                                  But aside from 3D modeling, Blender has many uses.

                                  For example, I built this little scooter with the first version of MagicaCSG.
                                  I imported the .ply file into Blender and used Blenders inbuild Freestyle Renderer
                                  to render the outer contour as an .SVG vector file. Which i loaded into VectorStyler.
                                  The outlines are very messy, but it works. 🙂

                                  3D Model in MagicaCSG
                                  0_1698754228453_Scooter MSCG.png

                                  SVG Output from Blender, is a vector graphics file
                                  0_1698754245351_Scooter Outline.png

                                  Here a Pic of MagicaCSG its a tiny 3D SDF Modeler
                                  from the same guy "Ephtracy" who made Magicavoxel.
                                  Its current in development, you have to be a Patreon
                                  of it to get a copy. I have no Problem to support him.

                                  Pic of MagicaCSG
                                  0_1698754456358_MagicaCSG.png

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                                    For those who dont fear the Blender Challenge 🙂

                                    Well i dont use Blender actually for 3D-Modeling.
                                    But i would not fear the challenge so much.

                                    Blender goes trough many transformations its now at
                                    Version 4.1 many things have changed. Add to this the great
                                    help that is avaible with youtube tutorials.

                                    Apart form this there is are also a special fork (Version) of Blender
                                    which is a bit behind the actual Version but offers all Features.
                                    Its call "Bforartist" "Blender for Artist". The goal of this fork is to make
                                    Blender easiere to use. They revampe the UI and the make the tasks more
                                    mouse orientied.

                                    Here the Link to their Website
                                    https://www.bforartists.de/

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                                      A little update:
                                      The public alpha of ConjurSDF, the SDF modeling addon
                                      for Blender, has now been released.

                                      I already mentioned ConjureSDF in a post above.
                                      This enables SDF modeling in Blender now.

                                      Here a Video

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                                        Another little update related to MagicaCSG.
                                        I asked the developer once about this, but wasn't sure if it
                                        would ever be happen. But Womp 3D has it and MagicaCSG
                                        will now also get a Text Tool. It is currently in development.

                                        The not so good news is that MagicaCSG only runs on PCs.
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                                        Here the Link related to the Text Tool
                                        https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@ephtracy/112879220334017884

                                        Here the whole MagicaCSG Thread
                                        https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/magicaCSG

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                                          Subpath
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                                          MagicaCSG related, a free version is online

                                          For anyone who like to tried out SDF-Modeling
                                          here is the free Version of MagicaCSG (PC,only).

                                          Its a bit limited features wise. But you can have
                                          fun with it and it is free. Save and load your models
                                          is possible, but no model export as .ply

                                          No install is needed, just unzip the File and start the .exe

                                          Here the Link:
                                          https://ephtracy.github.io/index.html?page=magicacsg
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                                          Here a little scooter i once made in MagicaCSG
                                          in a much older Version
                                          0_1722711716623_Scooter.png

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                                          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                            A Video of the upcoming Text Feature of MagicaCSG
                                            there will only be one font for now because this feature
                                            requires some processing power.

                                            https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@ephtracy/112937856746564156

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