More Keyboard Shortcut Conflicts
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The whole toggle commands exists in Affinity Designer already and they're on by default (besides - as far I know - there is no way to turn it off there).
Maybe problem is that, we all came to VS by different "paths" (ex. from Ilustrator, Inkscape, Affinity Designer etc.) and we should make some compromises here?
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@Igull not trying to mince words but you had said, "If I then hit 'A' to get the shape editor tool then hit A again, it toggles to the transform tool - it is DRIVING ME NUTS."
Why would you be toggling "a" to get the shape editor?
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Ideally, if the app would ask the user which app he's accustomed with the first time it runs,
settings like these could be toggled on or off depending on that — if coming from AD then
leave it on, if coming from AI (and maybe CDR), disable it.But for now an option in the Preferences would be good to have.
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@b77 I understand what you're suggesting and in some ways, I agree; it could be a good onboarding method for beginners. It could also limit the effectiveness and vision for what vectorstyler could be intended. Part of what makes vectorstyler amazing is that it is both very customizable while providing a unique setup unlike the other vector editing options.
I could see a quick view list section in the manual dedicated to explaining in great detail the preferences more closely related to affinity or illustrator or Corel that guides the user through the settings to lean Vectorstyler toward what they know. This way would allow them to pick and choose and have the opportunity to branch out away from their traditional training. I'm grateful not everything in Vectorstyler is just like illustrator, or there's a lot of great features I'd have missed
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@Boldline said in More Keyboard Shortcut Conflicts:
@b77 I understand what you're suggesting and in some ways, I agree; it could be a good onboarding method for beginners.
It could also limit the effectiveness and vision for what vectorstyler could be intended.True, but the beginner could have a choice between "native" VS defaults and settings adapted
for AI, CDR or AD users.
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@Boldline said in More Keyboard Shortcut Conflicts:
@Igull not trying to mince words but you had said, "If I then hit 'A' to get the shape editor tool then hit A again, it toggles to the transform tool - it is DRIVING ME NUTS."
Why would you be toggling "a" to get the shape editor?Because A IS the shape editor shortcut (or the AI direct selection tool if you prefer that name - I do) - if you hit A a second time, you get the transform tool (AKA the AI selection tool
). Similarly, hitting V to get the transform tool then hitting V a second time will get some other pseudo-random tool I regularly hit the shortcut keys more than once to ensure that the app has picked it up - sometimes it doesn't - if it didn't toggle, it wouldn't cause an issue
As I said, it's only the toggling that's causing the issue, so let's create a toggle switch (pun intended for electrical types ) in preferences - with it toggled off as the default Neil
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@b77 said in More Keyboard Shortcut Conflicts:
Ideally, if the app would ask the user which app he's accustomed with the first time it runs,
settings like these could be toggled on or off depending on that — if coming from AD then
leave it on, if coming from AI (and maybe CDR), disable it.
But for now an option in the Preferences would be good to have.That sounds far too sensible an idea, why didn't I think of that - nice
Best idea yet IMHO - that could apply to a number of other preferences too no doubt.
Neil
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@Igull ok I understand, my fault on the confusion here. my brain calls it the node editing tool even though the official name is shape editor. I was thinking of the rectangle/oval tool, etc.
We agree on a preferences option, but We'll have to agree to disagree on the feature being set to on by default. I think it helps a lot more people than it hinders. Just my two cents
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@Boldline said in More Keyboard Shortcut Conflicts:
I'm grateful not everything in Vectorstyler is just like illustrator, or there's a lot of great features I'd have missed
Yes, completely agree. I think a really decent video showing the major pros of VS is needed now. It's ok to be flailing about in the dark, but occasionally a torch is handy
Neil
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Whatever@vectorstyler decides to do works for me. Having the settings go based on a specific alternate vector editor feels less professional and the user misses out on really learning about one of the amazing features of vectorstyler, the massive ability to customize. If preferences got organized to a point where it was super easy to find all settings related to a certain topic, users would enjoy the customizing process and not missed out on features they would have liked had they used the affinity theme instead of the Corel one, etc. Also, if there was a deep dive section in the reference that fully laid out what each preference can do, that would also help people understand.
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@Boldline said in More Keyboard Shortcut Conflicts:
Also, if there was a deep dive section in the reference that fully laid out what each preference can do, that would also help people understand.
Yes, that is a good idea.
Still think that perhaps some kind of Quick Start choice of settings would help folks along in the beginning.
Neil
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@Igull Version 1.1.070 brings a Preferences setting for this — it's in Prefs > Document View > Deactivate Tool with Shortcut.
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