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    • DazmondoD Offline
      Dazmondo @Dazmondo
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      @Dazmondo said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

      Just had a quick mess around by separating in Affinity, importing into VS and assigning repeater dots --- works great - obviously needs tweaking but opens up a few doors for creating duotones for T-shirts

      Heres the VS doc: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IefoB6blZgPRVzZ6A_7UVgZww0CERITJ/view?usp=sharing

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        Subpath @Dazmondo
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        @Dazmondo said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

        Wow just watched the video - giving me ideas how to do this in VS --- thanks

        i though it would give us a few ideas 🙂

        and maybe VectorStyler too

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        • VectorStylerV Offline
          VectorStyler @Dazmondo
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          @Dazmondo said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

          etched style halftones

          There is a larger repeater task planned just after 1.2, so not very soon but soon.

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          • BoldlineB Offline
            Boldline @b77
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            @b77 said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

            @Boldline Export separations with Print to File and open the generated PDFs back in VS, change the black shapes to the correct color for the first three files (C, M, Y) or for the Pantones, and run Repeater on them.

            @b77 Ok I'm finally trying this but I'm a complete newbie when it comes to most printing setups. I have it set to "print to file" and "separate", but am I supposed to be running it with all 4 CMYK?
            Are there other settings I should be adjusting? Thanks for your help!
            0_1659970097700_f787df3b-7f01-40d0-b494-e0dd7ad40ccf-BLD 2022-08-08 at 10.48.10.png

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            • b77B Offline
              b77 @Boldline
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              @Boldline That's it — hit OK and you should get one PDFs for each process color (C, M, Y, K).

              MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                Boldline @b77
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                @b77 ok - for this end result I really only want two colors, gray and white. It's going to go on a black shirt. Right now I have four pdfs that all look almost identical

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                • b77B Offline
                  b77 @Boldline
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                  @Boldline Then the white should be a spot color (a Pantone maybe) and make sure the grey object is made only of blacK ink — no mixing of cyan, magenta and yellow.

                  MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                    Boldline @b77
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                    @b77 Can you give me a little more direction on how to go about adding a white in there and gray? Or point me to a place where I can learn how to do this? I'm not following what I need to do next - thanks
                    Am I supposed to be converting it to vector in Repeater first in this case?

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                    • b77B Offline
                      b77 @Boldline
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                      @Boldline Oh, I thought you were dealing with vector objects, not bitmaps.

                      If it's monochrome, why do you need separations?

                      MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                      • VectorStylerV Offline
                        VectorStyler
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                        There are some small changes to repeaters. Editing the Intensity of the Object Content scaling mode allows now the selection of a color mode and color channel to be used as the intensity source.

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                        • b77B Offline
                          b77 @Boldline
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                          @Boldline In any case, you can change the color mode of the bitmap to Grayscale from Effects > Adjust Colors > Color Mode.

                          MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                            Boldline @b77
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                            @b77 said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

                            @Boldline Oh, I thought you were dealing with vector objects, not bitmaps.

                            If it's monochrome, why do you need separations?

                            Sorry for the confusion. In this case it's a raster image that I wanted to convert to a white screen and a gray screen with halftones. The white would not be halftoned. I wanted to see if this was possible in VS

                            Based on your thinking, How else would I did the separations?

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                            • b77B Offline
                              b77 @Boldline
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                              @Boldline You can try vectorizing it and selecting only the white resulting objects that make the sprayed area (Select > Select by > Fill…), group them and give it a Pantone Translucent White, then convert a copy of the bitmap itself to Grayscale and use that for Repeater.

                              Other than that, since VS doesn't do bitmap masking, this would require an image editor like Photoshop or PhotoPaint which can do the needed masking and conversion to duotone (made of two Pantones).

                              MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                                Dazmondo @b77
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                                @Boldline said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

                                Sorry for the confusion. In this case it's a raster image that I wanted to convert to a white screen and a gray screen with halftones. The white would not be halftoned. I wanted to see if this was possible in VS
                                Based on your thinking, How else would I did the separations?

                                Just saw this last night and woke up thinking about how to approach this. I'm not sure if this is exactly what you want to achieve Boldline but heres a Vid-grab of how I'd tackle this, now I've got my head around repeater: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cWbX3VjoKbr5FrhFsbnHSv4Bi_R01Dwv/view?usp=sharing

                                Excuse the poor video quality Vimeo won't let me upload now unless I start a PLAN (hate that word) so it's back to google drive

                                I have come across a few problems (maybe bugs) with the ruler guides not respecting Top-down coordinates and also the gradient mask tool flitting to the wrong place

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                                  Dazmondo @Dazmondo
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                                  @Boldline said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

                                  Sorry for the confusion. In this case it's a raster image that I wanted to convert to a white screen and a gray screen with halftones. The white would not be halftoned. I wanted to see if this was possible in VS

                                  Further to the above - thought I'd have a quick go with the ref image in the post and it all seems straight froward, although VS tracing is not as good as ImageVectorizer (which I would normally use) Really great that we can now access the symbol which is repeated in Raster work without having to create a symbol from scratch👍
                                  :0_1660213248991_Screen Grab 2022-08-11 at 11.16.02 am.png

                                  Heres the VS file:0_1660213362622_Halftone beard.vstyler

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                                  • DazmondoD Offline
                                    Dazmondo @Dazmondo
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                                    @Dazmondo Separates great:
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                                    • DazmondoD Offline
                                      Dazmondo @Dazmondo
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                                      @Dazmondo For a two colour job I would prob pick out a bit of highlights and colour up White to give a touch more contrast - would probably look better with an high res pic:
                                      0_1660216656331_Screen Grab 2022-08-11 at 12.13.20 pm.png

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                                        Boldline @Dazmondo
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                                        @Dazmondo WOW! thank you for helping with this. I do have a slightly improved copy of the design I got from the client. I had also upscaled that image and adjusted the ppi. I was getting stuck in the repeater so I will check out the video and see how it goes - thank you for the help! this is an awesome development

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                                          Dazmondo @Boldline
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                                          @Boldline said in Repeater halftone problem on rasters:

                                          @Dazmondo WOW! thank you for helping with this. I do have a slightly improved copy of the design I got from the client. I had also upscaled that image and adjusted the ppi. I was getting stuck in the repeater so I will check out the video and see how it goes - thank you for the help! this is an awesome development

                                          No worries boss - I don't have a lot of work on at the moment, so kind of a pleasure to learn via experiment.

                                          Here's my repeater presets if it's any help? I always tend to use Half Intense or Halftone Intensity and theres maybe a few other options thats part of these presets that I should maybe get around to ditching

                                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wd9hMngTJXi0gYY1uSOpN4uxaq6F7W6e/view?usp=sharing

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                                            Subpath
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                                            @Boldline , @Dazmondo

                                            I just like to tell that i found a way to get a Halftone Line like Result in VS.

                                            Edited:
                                            Part 4 is now online an will be found here
                                            ...a kind of halftone Lines, Part 4

                                            Here a Example

                                            0_1660982475179_Halftone-in VS.png

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