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    • DazmondoD Offline
      Dazmondo @Subpath
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      @Subpath said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

      Maybe this way here could be helpful to select Strokes/Brushes faster.

      Don't understand STRG ???

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        b77 @Dazmondo
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        @Dazmondo 'Steuerung' means 'Control' in German:

        0_1658166282772_strg.png

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          Subpath @Dazmondo
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          @Dazmondo said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

          @Subpath said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

          Maybe this way here could be helpful to select Strokes/Brushes faster.

          Don't understand STRG ???

          @b77 already wrote the answer.
          STRG is German Keyboard Layout πŸ™‚
          STRG same as CTRL (PC) and Command on Mac

          I mention Ctrl behind STRG also in my Picture above.

          Win 11
          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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            Dazmondo @Dazmondo
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            @Dazmondo said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

            @Subpath said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

            Maybe this way here could be helpful to select Strokes/Brushes faster.

            Don't understand STRG ???

            Tried all the usual key combos and just can't get this to work for the pencil tool

            Is it maybe a PC only feature? But would be really great if you could click on a stroke with the brush applied while holding down a combo (or having an option via the right click options) which then sucks up the style to use continually til you want to change to another brush?

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              Subpath @Dazmondo
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              @Dazmondo

              Is the Key that temporaly switch to the Shape Editor Tool
              and i think this work on Mac too

              Win 11
              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                b77 @Subpath
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                @Subpath and @Dazmondo On the Mac it's the Command key that does the momentary switch to Shape Editing mode when you hold it.
                …or to the Select/Transform tool (V) when you are in Shape Editing mode.

                MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                  Subpath @b77
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                  @b77 , thanks for looking πŸ‘

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                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    Subpath
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                    @Dazmondo

                    so select the Pencil Tool and press and hold the Command Key
                    If you look in the Toolbar the Shape Editor Tool should be selected.

                    Now keep holding the Command Key and select any other Stroke/
                    Brush. Then release the Command key and draw with Pencil tool
                    the stroke should now be in the Style of your last selected.

                    Here another Video for you
                    where the Shortcuts will be shown.

                    Here the Video:

                    0_1658168803649_Command-use.png

                    Win 11
                    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                    GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                      Subpath
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                      @Dazmondo

                      What you trying to do in your Pictures above
                      would not work, as far as i know.

                      You cant draw Brush Strokes with the Pencil Tool.

                      And to draw Brush Strokes with the Pen Tool
                      would only work if you do the following.

                      Take a look at this Video:

                      0_1658169888068_Brush-with-Pen.png

                      Win 11
                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                        VectorStyler @Dazmondo
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                        @Dazmondo Question: should the Pencil tool be able to paint with vector brushes (as an option)?

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                          Dazmondo @VectorStyler
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                          Thanks Subpath / b77 for the tips, I was originally (stupidly) concentrating using the combo with the pencil tool (which doesn't work on the Mac) but works with the brush tool.

                          Managed to get there in the end and got the job finished0_1658213279043_Screen Grab 2022-07-19 at 7.47.27 am.png

                          I'm sure with a little practice I could now motor through these types of jobs - also now using that nice little tip from Subpath for working with the pen tool by temporally pressing 'b' to select the brush tool then hitting 'p' to continue the path - works great --- Thanks everyone

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                            Subpath @Dazmondo
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                            @Dazmondo

                            your welcome, always happy to help

                            have to say that i am very impressed by your Design, wow πŸ‘

                            As a small note, because it struck me.
                            The text "Steam Kittens" doesn't really follow a text on curve.
                            But maybe that's intended.

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                            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                              Subpath @VectorStyler
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                              @VectorStyler

                              would it not a little more helpful if we could use
                              the Pen Tool direct also for Vector Brushes ?

                              without the workaround a descriped above

                              Win 11
                              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                VectorStyler @Subpath
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                                @Subpath said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

                                would it not a little more helpful if we could use the Pen Tool direct also for Vector Brushes ?

                                Yes, this could be easy to enable. But, it might result in confusion as all other apps differentiate between the Pen and brush tools.

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                                  Subpath @VectorStyler
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                                  @VectorStyler

                                  For me, the advantage of this is so much greater than any confusion about it.

                                  As you can see, @dazmondo has a problem while he
                                  likes using the Pen Tool
                                  with Vector Brushes and can't do that. I know he could apply it later.
                                  But direct editing would be so much more forward.

                                  Here two Programs from old Times :), that have been using this for a long time.
                                  I still like them and have copies installed. These are
                                  "Creature House Expression" and "Expression Design."

                                  In "Creature House Expression" it is called B-Spline, but
                                  Expression Design uses the Pen Tool for Vector brushes.

                                  Here a Video Example:

                                  0_1658238145352_Expression.png

                                  Win 11
                                  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                    VectorStyler @Subpath
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                                    @Subpath Added this as an option to the backlog.

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                                      Subpath @VectorStyler
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                                      @VectorStyler

                                      great !
                                      I think this will put a smile on many faces πŸ™‚

                                      Win 11
                                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                        Dazmondo
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                                        The Steam Kittens have requested a back print for the T-shirt featuring Keith (the steampunk kitten character featured on the front) so thought I'd have a crack using the method detailed in this post and glad to report it was far less bother to do the shading using the brushes I made and really easy to edit ---- did have a fair few times that I had to force quit when doing the top hat detail, but got there in the end --- Still need to add tour dates and a logo:

                                        1_1658249855933_Screen Grab 2022-07-19 at 5.55.50 pm.png 0_1658249855932_Screen Grab 2022-07-19 at 5.56.46 pm.png
                                        @Subpath said in Draw tool sticky settings?:

                                        @VectorStyler

                                        great !
                                        I think this will put a smile on many faces πŸ™‚

                                        Big smile hereπŸ‘

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                                          Subpath @Dazmondo
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                                          @Dazmondo

                                          Thats so insane, i am totaly floored by your design
                                          WOW !!!

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                                          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                            Boldline
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                                            @Dazmondo Really impressive work! Thanks for sharing what you've figured out and the final result.

                                            @Dazmondo @Subpath I'm going to have to go in and look more closely at what exactly is being discussed as a design tactic between the pencil, pen and brush tools - I think I understand in part but would be interested to check out more with it.
                                            It sounds like you want to be able to use a repeating brush along a path but the brush tool does not give you the control over the path like a pencil tool or especially a pen tool could do. So instead of making the lines first and going back and giving them the brush style after, you want to be able to see it right away and faster using the keyboard shortcuts - draw a path with the pencil or pen tool - hold down command (ultimately be able to pull the style from another sample in the design) click "b" to get to brush and have it convert to the repeating pattern already set there....
                                            I'll have to go back and try things out as at this point I'm not sure if there's more to it or I have the general concept down

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