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    Shape Weaving – Over-Under Paths

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      Subpath @b77
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      @b77

      know knotplot too 🙂

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        Subpath @Victor Vector
        last edited by Subpath

        @Victor-Vector

        Beautiful idea, i like celtic pattern

        Like to contribute a find that i made yesterday.
        Where i playing around with a cloned stroke above another Stroke.

        To select the Stroke under the cloned stroke, use object selection on Layer.

        Video: see here

        0_1652023424565_Stroke-above-Stroke-1.png
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        And here a Result with some editing.
        Just a few short black and white strokes.
        0_1652024363071_Over-unter-Stroke-1.png

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          Victor Vector @b77
          last edited by

          @b77 Cool! I will check it out.
          Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

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            Victor Vector @Subpath
            last edited by Victor Vector

            @Subpath I played around with that and I love the effect.
            I am curious to see what you did after the video ended to see how you handled the overlap.

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              Subpath @Victor Vector
              last edited by Subpath

              @Victor-Vector

              i love this effect too 🙂

              For the overlapping parts, these are just short, simple strokes

              Video see here:

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              0_1652025266006_overlapping-strokes.png

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                Subpath @Victor Vector
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                @Victor-Vector

                Btw, there is yet another way to handle a overlap
                you could use "combined strokes" but i think it is
                difficult to use them on curves.

                You could also split strokes by delete a node
                and seperate them. The clone will follow.

                Video: here a try from me
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                0_1652026576914_split-strokes.png

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                  encart
                  last edited by encart

                  @Victor-Vector Inkscape has this functionality built in.
                  https://recordit.co/mPFctGJrmQ

                  Edit:
                  In VS we have Crossing Gap Effect, but without any modifications - the newer segments are always above.
                  https://recordit.co/7TfjUJRseq

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                    Subpath @encart
                    last edited by Subpath

                    @encart

                    Thats cool 👍
                    Thanks for the tip.
                    Crazy, whats already build in VS.

                    But, as I found out, you need to apply this effect to the layer.
                    Does not work only on stroke.

                    But it's no problem to then make a clone of the stroke and put it over it. The clone follows the gaps.

                    0_1652039054314_Gap-in-Stroke.png
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                    you could also do this, this way
                    without any clone

                    0_1652039846574_Gap-in-Stroke-2.png
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                    and this way

                    0_1652039871145_Gap-in-Stroke-3.png

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                      Victor Vector
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                      @encart Thank you for demonstrating the "Crossing Gap" in Effects > Shape Effects > Outline > Crossing Gap. I did not know about that, so I played around with it a bit.
                      @Subpath I like how you refined the effect with the tapered double lines.

                      I watched the Local Layering video shared by @vectorstyler https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/1531326.1531390 I appreciated understanding the potential issues and the logical problem solving he implemented.
                      What is exciting is it looks like the idea is totally doable, especially for shapes.

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                        b77 @Victor Vector
                        last edited by b77

                        @VectorStyler It's great that the app has a way to achieve this already (thanks @encart , I didn't know about Crossing Gap) and this will come handy for an old project here.

                        However, a small improvement I would suggest is making the gap values dependent on the stroke width, so that when you change it the gap is still the same.

                        Currently, if the stroke width is 20 pt and the Above Gap is at 60 pt then you change the stroke to 30, the gap is gone. You need to go to Shape effects, open the Crossing Gap settings and readjust it to… 86, I think.

                        If this value would be the distance between the overlapping path widths (say, 5 pt), changing the stroke widths would make readjusting the gap unnecessary.

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                          Subpath
                          last edited by Subpath

                          one observation i made, if you look at
                          this picture, it is not a Over-Under Effect
                          but still very handy in some cases
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                          0_1652085081640_under or over.png

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                            Subpath
                            last edited by

                            Another find
                            try Shape Effect -> Outline -> Outline Path on a Stroke
                            and play with "Stripe"

                            No clone is used for this effect.
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                            0_1652111182135_Outline-Path.png

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                              Subpath
                              last edited by Subpath

                              The right one is a editable Gear-Shape and is still editable.

                              Have fun to explore how to make it 🙂
                              (Hint: read my previous post and use the Shape panel)
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                              0_1652116516709_Gear-Shape-find-1.png
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                              To simplify things a bit, you can copy a shape effect you once found
                              from a shape and paste it onto another shape!
                              0_1652117008807_Copy-Shape-Effect.png

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                                Victor Vector @Subpath
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                                @Subpath Wow! I love the power of being able to create such an attractive shape from a gear shape. These are some fun explorations. Thank you for sharing!

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                                  Subpath @Victor Vector
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                                  @Victor-Vector

                                  I love this too, VS seems to be an endless box of miracles 🙂

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