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      b77 @Boldline
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      @Boldline I guess it was renamed to 'Scale Image Filters'.

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        Boldline
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        Thanks @b77 I saw that option but it did not make sense to me and I had been looking for @vectoradmin 's title for it verbatim

        I'm still confused by the scale strokes in VS because the stroke does not seem to stay sized proportionally to the fill when you scale it down. Here I have a video showing my attempts to scale down a circle with stroke and although the stroke does decrease in size as the overall shape is shrunk down, it's not remaining proportional to the shape. I also included a couple screen shots to show the ratio of the stroke to the gray circle before and after shrinking. I would expect the smaller circle to have a MUCH smaller stroke

        0_1647211537936_916144c5-cd94-4cff-9ae1-5e8ea4f99bbb-BLD 2022-03-13 at 18.45.27.png
        0_1647211505777_c6d4afc5-04c4-42ff-ae1a-31ac306b43d0-BLD 2022-03-13 at 18.44.39.png

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          Boldline @Victor Vector
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          @Victor-Vector I agree with you on this point - it would be nice to have easy access to the scaling strokes option. This seems like a logical place to look for it and find it.

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            b77 @Boldline
            last edited by b77

            @Boldline It looks like a bug — scaling with the object doesn't work for strokes aligned to inside or outside.

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              Boldline @b77
              last edited by Boldline

              @b77 Yes! When I moved the stroke back to the center-align, it scales correctly now. thanks.
              @vectoradmin - would you prefer I move this over the the "bug report" section as it's own thread or leave it here?

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                VectorStyler @Boldline
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                @Boldline @b77 @Victor-Vector The aligned stroke scaling is a regression (from two builds ago). I added it to the backlog (no need to move the post).

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                  VectorStyler @danegeld
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                  @danegeld A new option in build 1.1.024: Transform Stroke in the Appearance panel menu, must select object in the panel (also in Object Options).
                  Will transform all subsequent stroke attributes inside that object

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                    Boldline @VectorStyler
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                    @vectoradmin this works well for customizing it on an individual file and individual object level, but is there a way to make scaling stroke size with object the default so that we're not having to go in to change the setting with every be document?

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                      VectorStyler @Boldline
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                      @Boldline said in Scale Strokes and Effects:

                      @vectoradmin this works well for customizing it on an individual file and individual object level, but is there a way to make scaling stroke size with object the default so that we're not having to go in to change the setting with every be document?

                      No such feature now, but I think one could be made for new objects.

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                        Boldline @VectorStyler
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                        @vectoradmin Only speaking for myself, I rarely want to stroke to stay the same size when I am scaling things - typically I design with the stroke being sized in relation to the fill object it's attached to. So selfishly, I'd prefer VS default to scaling strokes and effects and let the new option in the appearance panel allow that selected object and future objects on that document be the opposite.
                        To appease all, I'd love to see it as a new document setup/document setup toggle. and the opposite takes affect if you go in and manually modify the setting in the appearance panel
                        I don't know if that's feasible

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                          Victor Vector @Boldline
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                          @Boldline said in Scale Strokes and Effects:

                          @vectoradmin Only speaking for myself, I rarely want to stroke to stay the same size when I am scaling things - typically I design with the stroke being sized in relation to the fill object it's attached to. So selfishly, I'd prefer VS default to scaling strokes and effects and let the new option in the appearance panel allow that selected object and future objects on that document be the opposite.
                          To appease all, I'd love to see it as a new document setup/document setup toggle. and the opposite takes affect if you go in and manually modify the setting in the appearance panel
                          I don't know if that's feasible

                          I too would prefer the stroke to be scalable by default, and yes, having an option in the "New Document Setup" and/or in "Preferences", for the users to decide how they would like to roll, is a nice way to handle this. I think AI had this in their preferences, but I cannot remember as it was a long time ago, haha.

                          I still think Transformed Stroke (scale stroke with object) needs to be more accessible rather than in a panel menu. Would it be helpful to also have it in the Stroke panel, next to the Width field?

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                            Jayanta Das
                            last edited by Jayanta Das

                            Is scale stroke with object works for you guys? It is not working here.

                            Recording

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                              b77 @Jayanta Das
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                              @Jayanta-Das It looks like 'Scale Image Filters' needs to be enabled as well.

                              @VectorStyler Is this by design?

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                                Jayanta Das @b77
                                last edited by Jayanta Das

                                @b77 Doesnot work here. I enabled both Scale Stroke and Scale Image Filters. Scale Image Filter stays selected but Scale Stroke disable (in panel menu) once I deselect the object

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                                  b77 @Jayanta Das
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                                  @Jayanta-Das It works here, at least on the Mac: https://recordit.co/YXpYX5IyfR

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                                    Jayanta Das @b77
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                                    @b77 I think its Windows only issue.

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                                      Subpath @Jayanta Das
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                                      @Jayanta-Das

                                      Is working here (win 10) even that image filter and Stroke scaling
                                      are not enabled when I duplicate a shape with both enabled.
                                      Strange its all ok in the video.

                                      Could also deselect and select the Shape, is still fine.

                                      But, with no offense. I find this a very curious way to
                                      enable a simply stroke scaling and (sorry) very cumbersome.
                                      And you have to do this for every new Shape.

                                      Video see here

                                      0_1653678737795_Stroke scaling.png

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                                        Jayanta Das @Subpath
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                                        @Subpath Thanks.
                                        I think I got the reason for the issue. I was selecting the stroke in appearance panel and then in the menu enabling Scale Stroke. That gives me the issue. Without selecting the
                                        Stroke in the appearance panel It works. In this thread @VectorStyler said to select Stroke in the appeance panel so I was doing that.
                                        Here is the recording of two shape. On the other one I select Stroke in appeance and then enable Scale Stroke which doesn't work.

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                                          Subpath @Jayanta Das
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                                          @Jayanta-Das , glady

                                          nice that it was helpful and thanks for your info too

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                                            VectorStyler @Jayanta Das
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                                            @Jayanta-Das said in Scale Strokes and Effects:

                                            Stroke in the appearance panel It works. In this thread @VectorStyler said to select Stroke in the appeance panel so I was doing that.

                                            Yes, the "Transform Stroke" works when the Object row is selected in the Appearance panel. Should be grayed out when the style is selected (or should fall back to the object automatically). Will fix this.

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