Mojikumi rules and symbols

[ash-f]

These symbols usually have to be half width(spacing) by default in Japanese regardless of its position.

（［｛〈《「『【〔〖〘〚〝）］｝〉》」』】〕〗〙〛〞、。，．・

[VectorStyler]

@ash-f I will try to fix this.

[ash-f]

@vectoradmin Thanks. ask me if any question about it.

[ash-f]

@vectoradmin

Revision for the rules. my explanation was not proper.

1. please add a Mojikumi preset that makes all symbols half width.(Yakumono Hankaku)

2. please add a preset that uses the rules below

• basically all symbols are normal width.
• opening brackets(quotes) following another symbol or space have to be half width.
• punctuations(、。，．) followed by a bracket(quote) have to be half width.
• closing brackets(quotes) followed by a punctuation(、。，．) have to be half width.

Regardless of which preset:
These should be half width by default.
・：；．

P.S.
Please forget about "symbol following another symbol shouldn't be half width."

[ash-f]

@vectoradmin

Also opening brackets(quotes) always have to be half width when they're at the start of the line.
（［｛〈《「『【〔〖〘〚〝

Paragraphs usually starting from a space(Japanese space which is double width) and if a opening bracket follows the space, it has to be half width.
(actually opening brackets(quotes) following a space have to be half width regardless of its position.)

[VectorStyler]

@ash-f said in Mojikumi rules and symbols:

@vectoradmin Thanks. ask me if any question about it.

One question: are the half width rules apply when these characters are rotated for vertical typesetting?

I will be back with more questions down the road (want to get this right).

[ash-f]

@vectoradmin Yes, it will be applied to both horizontal writing and vertical writing.

[861475_VctSt]

@ash-f
@vectoradmin

I have posted a proposal (f) for a future version. This is a pending project.
https://www.vectorstyler.com/forum/topic/480/cjk-japanese-observation-1-0-024

If ash-f understands Japanese, why don't we exchange ideas with each other before suggesting it to Vectoradmin?

Japanese character typesetting is based on a very complex set of rules.
The JIS X 4051 standard specified by the Japanese Industrial Standards is the basis for this.

English version
https://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-jlreq-20090604/#status
English-Japanese bilingual version
https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/
Japanese version
https://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-jlreq-20090604/ja/

However, now in the digital age, in Japan, each industry and each designer tends to make their own industry rules based on this regulation.
As I mentioned in my previous post, I don't think VS needs to deal with all of these, it should implement a minimum set of typographic rule patterns and leave the local rules to the users to customize.
I think the Mojikumi feature needs the following improvements
Show type preview in customize screen.
Import mojikumi data from InDesign, etc.

[VectorStyler]

@861475_VctSt @ash-f Some of the Japanese typography support issues are still open, including adding better defaults.

[VectorStyler]

@ash-f said in Mojikumi rules and symbols:

1. please add a Mojikumi preset that makes all symbols half width.(Yakumono Hankaku)

Is there a list of symbols that should be half width?