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    • IngolfI Offline
      Ingolf
      last edited by Ingolf

      This is something that is very relevant to my workflows. I would call it a really real real world scenario.

      I often - very often - organize objects into groups, and move those groups. And then I expect snap to treat them as a group and then use the group's outer boundaries, since I typically use snap to align with other objects' top, bottom or sides. Not the individual many objects in the group.

      Here are two groups attempted aligned in VS and Affinity respectively (only 'Objects' selected in snap panel):

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      And a group attempted aligned with a single object:

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      Same problem with guidelines.

      Did I miss a setting?

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      • b77B Offline
        b77 @Ingolf
        last edited by

        @Ingolf I think what you need to enable is 'Snap Selection Frame' from the Snapping panel's menu.

        MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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        • IngolfI Offline
          Ingolf @b77
          last edited by

          @b77 said in Groups do not snap as groups:

          @Ingolf I think what you need to enable is 'Snap Selection Frame' from the Snapping panel's menu.

          It certainly helped - but then we are back in the usability discussion - I would never personally have found it:

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          • b77B Offline
            b77 @Ingolf
            last edited by b77

            @Ingolf Should this be enabled automatically for groups?

            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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            • IngolfI Offline
              Ingolf @b77
              last edited by

              @b77 said in Groups do not snap as groups:

              @Ingolf Should this be enabled automatically for groups?

              Absolutely - I am trying to align the group as a whole - but I still get this indicator mess - and I have no idea what combination of these 50 settings I need to set for it to work like I prefer:

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              • IngolfI Offline
                Ingolf
                last edited by

                Shiiet... I give up!

                My reaction (YouTube)

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                • b77B Offline
                  b77
                  last edited by

                  @Ingolf If the group can snap with the corner of its bounding box (the frame) to the corner of another bounding box, 'Snap Selection Frame' is what you need, right?
                  No need to disturb the other settings, except to disable 'Snap Object Frames' probably.

                  MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                  • IngolfI Offline
                    Ingolf @b77
                    last edited by Ingolf

                    @b77 said in Groups do not snap as groups:

                    @Ingolf If the group can snap with the corner of its bounding box (the frame) to the corner of another bounding box, 'Snap Selection Frame' is what you need, right?
                    No need to disturb the other settings, except to disable 'Snap Object Frames' probably.

                    There is just too much happening on the screen and I am never sure it really aligns to what I want.

                    Snap object frames IS disabled in the above screenshot, and I simply gave up experimenting more.

                    Just too many advanced options. If they were all hidden now, and only unhidden one by one after user requests, I believe many of them would never appear again. (This just written to illustrate my point!!!)

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                    • VectorStylerV Offline
                      VectorStyler @Ingolf
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                      @Ingolf I added this to the backlog. There are certainly things to improve in the options and how the indicators work.

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