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    • IgullI Offline
      Igull @Ingolf
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      @Ingolf said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:

      Of that is the case I will recommend an additional paste submenu at right click, where you can choose from a list of subsets: image effects, fill and stroke etc. so you only paste one at a time.

      I really do like this idea - I like right click contextual menus in general and this would seem a prime candidate - much better than having a pile of differing eyedroppers - more of a universal eyedropper approach.
      In general, I'm more of the right tool for the job, but this would definitely work better I think. Perhaps allowing the user to allocate what goes into their specific eyedropper menu?

      Nice one πŸ™‚

      Neil

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      • IngolfI Offline
        Ingolf @Igull
        last edited by Ingolf

        @Igull said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:

        @Ingolf said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:
        I really do like this idea - I like right click contextual menus in general and this would seem a prime candidate - much better than having a pile of differing eyedroppers - more of a universal eyedropper approach.
        In general, I'm more of the right tool for the job, but this would definitely work better I think. Perhaps allowing the user to allocate what goes into their specific eyedropper menu?

        Nice one πŸ™‚

        It is also my favorite - and a problem solver for people like me who use both win and MacOS versions of the same software. I can’t remember all the keyboard shortcuts. Easy access and simple user interface - yes please.

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        • BoldlineB Offline
          Boldline
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          I have not gotten into understanding all of the details related to what is tied to what eyedropper. I'm very much used to the Illustrator eyedropper default where it copies essentially fill and stoke color mainly.. Right now in VS I'm fumbling around with pressing shift along with the click to get certain settings and even that is not always what I was expecting... again, I need to sit down and take some time to really understand the setup in VS

          One thing I love about VS that I dislike in CS6 (maybe fixed in CC? - I have never used CC so I'm not sure) is that in VS, I can click the eyedropper on a fill color and that becomes the stroke color if I have the stroke color box active. In CS6, you can't do that - if you click on a color that happens to be a fill, it's going to make your targeted shape the same fill

          It would be great if with the eyedropper tool in the vertical toolbar, the option chosen from amongst the rest would be tied to the "I" key... right now if I have another eyedropper tool active and then go away to use another tool and click "I" to get back to the eyedropper, it defaults back to the original eyedropper. Perhaps a way for the user to set which eyedropper setting they want to be the default? I'm just throwing out ideas...
          I agree in part with @Ingolf on his description using a different paste modifiers - that could be interesting. Though we are very low on available keyboard shortcuts. That limitation will be lifted when the ability for three key shortcuts gets added.

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          • VectorStylerV Offline
            VectorStyler @Ingolf
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            @Igull @Ingolf In the Edit -> Attributes menu there are some copy paste actions for various parts of the object.

            But some of the attributes (like collision distances) are not included here.

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            • IngolfI Offline
              Ingolf @VectorStyler
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              @VectorStyler said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:

              @Igull @Ingolf In the Edit -> Attributes menu there are some copy paste actions for various parts of the object.

              But some of the attributes (like collision distances) are not included here.

              Yep - but that is the place I was referring to with this sentence:

              "I often wonder if the many tours of user interfaces and menus and tools I take could be replaced by something much simpler."

              Simple meaning simpler, local: mouse/pointer stays in canvas with and above objects during many adjustments. The menu system is not helpful when you do something several times. Shortcuts are better, but you can't always remember them all.

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              • VectorStylerV Offline
                VectorStyler @Ingolf
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                @Ingolf said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:

                Simple meaning simpler, local: mouse/pointer stays in canvas with and above objects during many adjustments

                I think this should be possible, and some UI/UX ideas (and maybe new things) are welcome. There was some popup / shortcut suggestion that is already in the backlog.

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                • IngolfI Offline
                  Ingolf @VectorStyler
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                  @VectorStyler said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:

                  @Ingolf said in Eyedropper Tool Enhancement:

                  Simple meaning simpler, local: mouse/pointer stays in canvas with and above objects during many adjustments

                  I think this should be possible, and some UI/UX ideas (and maybe new things) are welcome. There was some popup / shortcut suggestion that is already in the backlog.

                  I'll share some later this week πŸ™‚ Pretty inspired by other major programs - not only graphics - so it is no just crazy ideas from deep inside my mind. πŸ™‚

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                  • IngolfI Offline
                    Ingolf
                    last edited by Ingolf

                    @VectorStyler Here is a little mockup of how a paste styles/attributes/whatever menu could work.

                    While I was at it, I made an example of how I would have set up right-click menus, the example is a remodeled "Right click path with transform tool" menu. I've left out some things I don't think belong in the menu. I kept Undo Redo Repeat, but I never liked them there. Perhaps non-mouse users do. I would removed them until someone actually asked them to be there.

                    I know your right click menus are really really dynamic - but this is just inspiration for how to group contents and in what order.

                    This link goes to an interactive model:
                    https://wireframepro.mockflow.com/view/vs-paste-object-attributes

                    Below are the two menus:
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                    0_1658525562683_4060c5eb-9c9d-4cd0-9d7a-38b5f2eaacf0-image.png

                    0_1658525621767_21cb1d5a-1fed-4153-9bd2-8581541e3cc2-image.png

                    A an example of a paste custom range of attributes dialog will follow.

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                    • IgullI Offline
                      Igull @Ingolf
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                      @Ingolf
                      Yes, pretty much that idea. I think the individual really has to choose what's relevant for their purposes - my no selection context menu for instance only has 10 items - the multi selection has 15. I'm still refining what I need as I go along, but I'm getting a bit more au fait with VS now πŸ™‚
                      Neil

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                        SaskiaHong @Igull
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                        I’d find that really useful as well. When working from reference images, I often need to sample multiple colors quickly, and having a more capable eyedropper would save a lot of back-and-forth.
                        As a workaround, I sometimes use colorpickerimage.org to grab exact color values from images before bringing them into my design workflow. Still, having this built directly into VectorStyler would be much smoother.

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