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    Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient

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      Subpath @VectorStyler
      last edited by Subpath

      @VectorStyler

      yes, i also thought that the most Gradients would
      be two colors. So the way i descriped would be useful.

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        b77 @Subpath
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        @Subpath I misunderstood what you meant, sorry.

        Yes, I agree, this would be an improvement. πŸ‘

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          Subpath @b77
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          @b77

          No Problem

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            Ingolf
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            Most of the time when I work with gradients I create several gradient stops. Rarely just two. I am not sure about this idea.

            I think a better idea is a pop up color selector near gradient stops. Probably discussed before in this forum. Probably implemented in other programs. I think I have seen it - simply too tired now. πŸ™‚

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              Subpath @Ingolf
              last edited by Subpath

              @Ingolf

              Nothing would stop you (and anybody else) from creating (multi) gradients the way you are used to.

              After all, you don't have to use the right mouse button if you don't want to.

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                Boldline @Ingolf
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                @Ingolf said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                Most of the time when I work with gradients I create several gradient stops. Rarely just two. I am not sure about this idea.

                A basic gradient is two colors and would cover the basics for any gradient being made so it seems like a logical move to have it focus on two colors initially and add more as needed per situation

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                  b77
                  last edited by b77

                  Maybe Ingolf is thinking of something that is even faster β€” one click(?) on a gradient color stop and a small color spectrum(?) appears, if I understand correctly.

                  Although this kinda "overlaps" with the panel you get when you double-click…

                  In any case, maybe he will clarify tomorrow.

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                    Subpath @b77
                    last edited by Subpath

                    @b77

                    sorry to say so, but the possibility via the double-click panel.
                    Is in my eyes the worst of all.

                    see video here

                    0_1659991946400_double click panel.png

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                      b77
                      last edited by b77

                      @Subpath If the popover would always * be displayed to the right of the color stop you double-click, it would not be bad at all, I would say.

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                        b77 @Subpath
                        last edited by b77

                        @Subpath The popover overlapping the color stop and the entire object happens when it is too close to the lower margin of the document window.
                        I hope the developer finds a fix for this.

                        But sometimes it is displayed to the right of the color stop, which is ideal… and other times it's displayed under the color stop, not covering it at all.
                        I didn't figure out why.

                        Quick video here: https://recordit.co/mPBsj9laoH

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                          Ingolf
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                          I had forgotten about the double click. πŸ˜›

                          I imagined a much smaller, compact version of that popover - not that big dialog. Perhaps even auto displaying itself after a reasonable unintrusive interval when you hover a gradient stop - or right click it/double click it, whatever.

                          My issue with gradients in many programs is (also) the many miles my mouse travel from panel to toolbars etc. etc. just to pull a lightness slider a bit, for example. So my point was just that my issue goes for all stops when working with gradients.

                          I wouldn't mind if a magic popover color dialog could be used for shapes and objects - fill and stroke - as well. Not sure how it should be activated - wouldn't like to drive other people crazy - but editing colors causes a lot of mouse movement from objects to panels etc. etc. I try to keep the panels floating and close but sometimes they are just in the way and add visual noise. And then I have to move them back and forth.

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                            Ingolf @Subpath
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                            @Subpath said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                            @Ingolf

                            Nothing would stop you (and anybody else) from creating (multi) gradients the way you are used to.
                            After all, you don't have to use the right mouse button if you don't want to.

                            Indeed - no objections - just trying to imagine a solution that works for all gradient stops. πŸ™‚

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                              Subpath @b77
                              last edited by Subpath

                              @b77

                              this popover panel is much to big
                              not dragable and not scaleable

                              apart from the fact that it covers an Object
                              what should not be happen.

                              and you need to double click every Node to get this Panel
                              (not so very much fun on a multi gradient, i guess)

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                                Subpath
                                last edited by Subpath

                                I looked around what solutions other Vector programs
                                offering for this case.

                                So far like the Magix Graphics Designer (MGD)
                                way of doing this.

                                But i don't like that you have to select a small menu first
                                should go directly in my opinion.

                                Here are some points I like about the MGD popup panel
                                -- it stays open
                                -- it is scalable
                                -- it is movable

                                -- you can seamlessly switch between different
                                objects with different gradients

                                -- there is a small icon in the Contex Bar when you activate it,
                                an object will display its gradient nodes when you select it

                                I made a Video, see here
                                .
                                .
                                and a Picture with selected Gradient Objects
                                (Btw works in VS too, as i saw)
                                0_1660031662050_Gradient Objects.png

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                                  Ingolf @Subpath
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                                  @Subpath said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                                  @b77

                                  this popover panel is much to big

                                  Yes

                                  apart from the fact that it covers an Object
                                  what should not be happen.
                                  and you need to double click every Node you have to get this Panel
                                  (not so very much fun on a multi gradient, i guess)

                                  I use a mouse as the only pointing and drawing device, so I would be very happy if a small dedicated color selector could pop up after I hovered a gradient stop for 1-2 seconds (user configurable option including delay interval).

                                  Users using other types of devices would probably prefer some other way of activating the color selector.

                                  I don't think any drawing programs supports this at the moment - I will check my Photo editing programs later.

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                                    Ingolf @Subpath
                                    last edited by

                                    @Subpath said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                                    To speed up the process of filling gradients a bit
                                    i had the following idea.
                                    0_1659963375279_Right Mouse for Gradient.png

                                    But that aside - I actually think this would work after some coffee woke up my mind. A bit like left and right mouse button selects stroke and fill in coreldraw, right, just first and last stop?

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                                      b77 @Ingolf
                                      last edited by b77

                                      Useful to know for everybody:

                                      When the Gradient Editor tool (G) is active, Option-clicking (Mac) or Alt-clicking (Win) any object or the canvas picks that color for the selected color stop.
                                      (If no color stop is selected, it will assign the picked color as a solid fill).

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                                        Subpath @b77
                                        last edited by

                                        @b77

                                        on Window holding the Alt-Key
                                        will bring the Color Picker up

                                        see video

                                        0_1660042185116_Alt-Key for Color Picker.png

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                                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                          b77 @Subpath
                                          last edited by

                                          @Subpath Forgot to mention the correct modifier on Windows. Adding it now. πŸ™‚

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                                            Subpath @b77
                                            last edited by Subpath

                                            @b77

                                            btw as it looks, that no color Stop (node) is selected
                                            when you create a new gradient, will be fixed.
                                            Is already in the Backlog

                                            i mentioned this here:
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