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    Bevel is completely broken (Image effects - Stylize)

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      Subpath
      last edited by

      Well, i have seen better beveling.
      I see it as a weak point.

      I'm not necessarily need it actualy in VS.
      But in the long term Vectorstyler could see if improvements
      would be possible.

      It depens also on the zooming Level you use.
      But can start to spot it at 200 %.

      100 %
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      200 %
      0_1661525145881_200-.png

      300 %
      0_1661525160691_300.png

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        Ingolf @Subpath
        last edited by Ingolf

        @Subpath A4 100%

        0_1661525740047_4f11584f-a7b6-406c-8591-b87f2d932583-image.png

        Clearly visible, weird and wrong.

        I would just like to know who would use this in a real world commercial scenario. Not an imagined scenario or rare scenario. But a real scenario, customers you can sell to.

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          Subpath @Ingolf
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          @Ingolf

          wow, that glossy looks cool
          (first video)

          Win 11
          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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            Ingolf @Subpath
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            @Subpath said in Bevel is complete broken (Image effects - Stylize):

            @Ingolf
            wow, that glossy looks cool
            (first video)

            Yes! And that's the kind of goodies you use bevel and emboss effects for in Adobe and partly Affinity. And that's... design!

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              Subpath @Ingolf
              last edited by

              @Ingolf said in Bevel is complete broken (Image effects - Stylize):

              Clearly visible, weird and wrong.

              Then it depends also on the Settings.

              ...who would use this in a real world commercial scenario...
              while it is not nice, the 100 % Font could be ok
              but no question, some better working bevel would be better

              Win 11
              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                Subpath @Ingolf
                last edited by Subpath

                @Ingolf said in Bevel is complete broken (Image effects - Stylize):

                Yes! And that's the kind of goodies you use bevel and emboss effects for in Adobe and partly Affinity. And that's... design!

                but there is a price for it, with adobe (subscription)

                Win 11
                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                  Ingolf @Subpath
                  last edited by Ingolf

                  @Subpath said in Bevel is complete broken (Image effects - Stylize):

                  but there is a price for it, with adobe (subscription)

                  Arh, come on.

                  It is not an advanced Adobe only technology or a special feature developed by Pixar. These are ancient algorithms I've seen in several applications, and the first time I saw them was well before the year 2000.

                  It' just different algorithms in VS for a different purpose. Completely different purpose.

                  The algorithms are in Affinity for crying out loud, the company that can't figure out Boolean operations after 30 years in the business πŸ˜„ and sells its products for half the price of VS.

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                    b77 @Subpath
                    last edited by b77

                    I agree that a better and separate Bevel effect is needed (and I think it can be done with the included effects), but I welcome all effects. When combined with others, good or "bad" sometimes doesn't matter:

                    0_1661527078702_choco.png

                    (Speaking of Pixar… the comparison with the AI bevel in the first video linked by @Ingolf is a bit unfair β€” it's a 3D-based effect (you can see the wireframe at one point, and you can even expand it into vectors, crazy). It was a plugin bought by Adobe from a third party in the 90's, IIRC).

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                    • IngolfI Offline
                      Ingolf
                      last edited by Ingolf

                      I just need these and bitmap output is just fine:

                      0_1661528650576_0b9c91da-7620-4420-9c68-6f2983a810e5-image.png

                      Yes, the model in Illustrator is pretty advanced, but not in Photoshop or Affinity.

                      The effects you see in Affinity's FX and Adobe Photoshop since forever have been there for one particular reason: they're effects with which you can quickly create the real-world effects we know so well:

                      • shadow
                      • inner shadow
                      • glow
                      • inner glow
                      • 3D
                      • Bevel and emboss
                      • outline
                      • gradient and color overlay

                      And THAT is why bevel + emboss is so important to me and others. If you're doing some non-flat design, these effects are critical and invaluable. I use them all the time.

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                        Subpath @b77
                        last edited by

                        @b77

                        looks nice, thanks for the settings πŸ‘

                        but on the last O from the brown one
                        you could spot the artifact
                        (looks like a fine line inner circle/shape)

                        Win 11
                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                          Ingolf
                          last edited by

                          These are the FX from Photoshop, current version (but essentially same feature for decades):

                          0_1661530059045_c829d65b-2f55-4279-9cbd-3766ed6da9a3-image.png

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                            b77 @Subpath
                            last edited by

                            @Subpath said in Bevel is complete broken (Image effects - Stylize):

                            but on the last O from the brown one
                            you could spot the artifact
                            (looks like a fine line inner circle/shape)

                            That one has no effect on top of Bevel. The other has 'Add Noise' (white noise).

                            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                              Ingolf
                              last edited by

                              But bottom line, whatever the discourse in here:

                              I can't use the current bevel feauture in VS. And I bet many can't. I simply can't imagine how they could use it.

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                                Subpath @b77
                                last edited by

                                @b77 , ah ok

                                Win 11
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                                  Ingolf
                                  last edited by

                                  Better in .058!

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