Best way to Crop an Image?

Subpath

@Victor-Vector
... I imagine the cat's cutout shape would take a lot time ...

Victor

To answer your question, I have been traced the Cats again
by hand and counted the time. It took me 7/8 minutes in VS.

I have to say that when I trace a bitmap by hand.
I usually just use straight lines to get the shape.

Then I select all the nodes and convert them to
curves and move or delete nodes where should
be curves.

something like this:
Video: Hand tracing

Magix Graphics Designer also has an advantage over VS,
in MGD you can blur the shape on its outer contour.
This way the fur of the cats looks better. While VS blurs
the whole bitmap in the shape.

Video: Blur MGD in VS

0_1649669349132_VS Blur.png

Edit:
... must correct me while i get some Infos from @vectoradmin
i doesnt know before. If you set "Preserve Colors" to checked
and "Preserve Alpha" unchecked you would get a better result. Like this here.

b77

@Subpath Why not try the Spikes distortion effect on the cat's fur.

Subpath

@b77

Didnt know it
(Thanks for you Tip, will give it a try)

But no, I was mainly trying to recreate a project in VS.
that I had created some time ago in Magix Graphics Designer.
And in this case I had used the Blur function of MGD.

Victor Vector

@Subpath That's what I love about this forum. I ask something embarrassingly basic and I learn a ton of new things!
I appreciate you sharing the outlining technique. I have learned over the years to use node handles and break node handles, to draw complicated shapes. I had never thought about just drawing it with straight lines and converting them to curves. Add to that a "simplify path" if needed, and it's a very quick and accurate way to trace an image. Thank you for sharing that technique.

@b77 I experimented with your effect concept and the closest I could get was a Shape Effect called "Outline Zigzag" on the image within the shape. I couldn't get the edge fine enough. It's close, but it ain't no blur!

0_1649726597689_Outline ZigZag Shape Effect.png

@vectoradmin if you ever find yourself craving to add yet another effect to the enormous roster of Image/Shape Effects (haha), perhaps this would be a useful one. Call it "Edge Feather"? "Edge Fuzz"?

Or perhaps there is a way to do this with masks and other tricks?

VectorStyler

@Victor-Vector said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

if you ever find yourself craving to add yet another effect to the enormous roster of Image/Shape Effects (haha), perhaps this would be a useful one. Call it "Edge Feather"? "Edge Fuzz

I will look into what is going on with the blur effect with image masks.

b77

@Victor-Vector It was a suggestion I made half-jokingly — the Spikes effect AND slight Blur would work nice on cat fur, I think.

Subpath

@Victor-Vector

You are welcome.

Well, I don't know which method is better.
I think it depends on what vector program you are using.
In Affinity Designer this method does not work,
as far as I know.

VectorStyler works very similar to CorelDraw in this case.
Where the straight lines will fall into the correct curve
if you put your nodes in the right place and delete them later
to get the Curve.

Subpath

@b77 said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

@Victor-Vector It was a suggestion I made half-jokingly — the Spikes effect AND slight Blur would work nice on cat fur, I think.

although semi-joking. could still be helpful, along with blurring in some cases.

pw

@VectorStyler

I just downloaded the demo and the first thing I did was look for a crop tool to try out. I am glad I didn't purchase it.

No real, easy to use, crop tool - no purchase and no point in going forward in using VectorStyler. I am going to uninstall the program right now.

-pw

Subpath

@pw said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

@VectorStyler

I just downloaded the demo and the first thing I did was look for a crop tool to try out. I am glad I didn't purchase it.

No real, easy to use, crop tool - no purchase and no point in going forward in using VectorStyler. I am going to uninstall the program right now.

-pw

Would you like to know how an easy to use Crop tool should look/work ?

Or what it should be able to do ?

b77

@pw That was unnecessary harsh, since there's an easy way to (non-destructively) crop an image or any selection of objects:

draw a rectangle (or any closed shape) over the image or shape(s) you want cropped;
select them all, and…
click the Move Inside Last button:

Quick video here:

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… .. .
(And the developer didn't say anywhere that a Crop tool is not coming).

Boldline

I don't think this was a serious rant. Whether it was or not, there's sure to be more trolling on the forum at some point as VS begins to grow.

I can safely admit that finding a dedicated and easy to use crop tool would never be my top priority nor would it be what I judge a vector based application by.
If by "crop' he's referring to "clipping" - that is more relevant but still not something to uninstall the entire application over lol

Subpath

@Boldline said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

I don't think this was a serious rant. Whether it was or not, there's sure to be more trolling on the forum at some point as VS begins to grow.

I think you are not far from the truth.
Found the post also a bit curios.

I dont see that much of a difference between
Crop and Clipping and i have done more Photo clipping
in Xara (back in the days) as in Photoshop

And VS is also very useful in this case

Ingolf

Illustrator, CorelDRAW and Affinity have destructive crop tools built-in. Useful for posters and other applications that include bitmap images. And good to have at hand.

Now I've always finished and cropped images in Photoshop first, but it's heavy detour if you just need to remove some of the image.

One should not underestimate that many designs are a mix of both vector and pixels.

Boldline

@Ingolf said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

Illustrator, CorelDRAW and Affinity have destructive crop tools built-in. Useful for posters and other applications that include bitmap images. And good to have at hand.

Being that most of my work over the years has been 100% vector, the need to destructively crop an image in illustrator or another vector program for me has been minor to none. Just applying a clipping mask was easy and destructive
If I remember correctly, the roadmap in VS mentions the ability to open and edit an image in VS in that native program to make further edits, such as cropping.

pw

Sure!

I simply want a crop or clipping tool to be able to select part of an image and have it cut out to that area. In one easy step. Drag around an area by pressing down on the left mouse button. That would specify the area to keep by pressing a button or checkbox or clicking on a menu item to accept the action. Very simple.

b77

Clipping rules — it's basically nondestructive and reversible crop.

But cropping is also needed, and I guess @pw wants cropped vector shapes, not just cropped bitmaps.

And he wants it now, or else!

(No, @pw is not a troll… he's just trying to hurry the developer with this.

Which is unpossible, because 'Improved image cropping tools' is already in Phase 1 on the Roadmap.

Boldline

@pw said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

I simply want a crop or clipping tool to be able to select part of an image and have it cut out to that area. In one easy step. Drag around an area by pressing down on the left mouse button. That would specify the area to keep by pressing a button or checkbox or clicking on a menu item to accept the action. Very simple.

Are we wanting to crop vectors or raster images?

Boldline

@b77 said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

(No, @pw is not a troll… he's just trying to hurry the developer with this.

I'm glad to hear he's not a troll! lol. I'm not sure threatening to uninstall the trial of VS is going to make the developer work any faster!

Subpath

@pw said in Best way to Crop an Image?:

Sure!

I simply want a crop or clipping tool to be able to select part of an image and have it cut out to that area. In one easy step. Drag around an area by pressing down on the left mouse button. That would specify the area to keep by pressing a button or checkbox or clicking on a menu item to accept the action. Very simple.

And this is not easy ?

Position a Rectangle over the Area you like to Crop
(could be any Vector Shape)

Select your Picture, put it in the Clipboard
Ctrl-X

Double click on the Rectangle (left mousebutton)
(and you are in Clipping Mode)

Past your Picture
Ctrl-V

Double Click on the Canvas
to leave the Clipping Mode

Done

See Video here

Edited: Typo
Double Click again on the Rectangle
should be
Double click on the Canvas